I reject 'caring for Our Own justifies not caring for The Other', because I reject the distinction between Our Own and The Other. If this is polarized and extreme, I own it, but it's not a rhetorical tool. It is my sincerely held position.
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Alternate hypothesis: they have idiosyncratic partner preferences (both sexual and otherwise) and exotic beliefs, so it's less "alienation" and more "active self-selection into a very wonky weird community", like a flagellant monk order
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and it could have been way way worse. It could have been a literal flagellant monk order. Or a literal death cult. Or a funny innovative combination of those.
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interesting thoughts. granted it could be worse, but it's already bad, how do we make it better?
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I am not sure it is possible to make it better. I mean, it's both "ethically dubious" and empirically hard to "fix" someone's sexual and interpersonal interactions preferences. By same token you could try to "fix" high-victimity people (very un-PC idea!) or "religious nuts"
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definitely agree with you on the pointlessness of individual radical interventions. "conversion therapy" of all varieties is gross. what I mean by fix is more like "how do we create the social environmental conditions that ameliorate this issue gracefully over time?"
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I don't think "incels" are in their current shape a problem that needs active amelioration. They are mostly harmless. Maybe better mental healthcare availability could help some of those folks but I kinda doubt that.
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mostly harmless to broader society. profoundly harmful to themselves and their friends in that "community". compassion for those who suffer is my guiding principle here. I'm not content to see them suffer and just shrug and say "as long as they keep to themselves I don't care".
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but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. I like to discuss it as a kind of simulation of how I might want to think and act about situations I can control. Compassionate analogies, in essence.
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