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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 21

      There is something bizarre about “high-IQ” as an identity core like with Mensa. Like a trade union of capitalists or a commune of libertarians. Or that South Park joke about the anti-semitic sect of Judaism. Shouldn’t you be winning Nobels, rather than performing identity?

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    2. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire Apr 22
      Replying to @vgr

      1) The IQ required to join Mensa is not that much higher than the average everyday doctor or lawyer so I think you’re asking a little much. 2) People with high IQ do not owe the world their intellectual labor any more than, say, women owe men their emotional labor.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire Apr 22
      Replying to @legalinspire @vgr

      3) Isn’t there enough unhappiness in the world without you mocking one of the few organizations that offer some people othered by their mental traits any sense of community? 4) Why are you wasting your time virtue-signalling your well-adjusted egalitarianism? In other words...

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 22
      Replying to @legalinspire

      To claim high IQ as an othering trait is as disingenuous as claiming being a billionaire is a burden. I’m not mocking them because I think IQ is a *dangerous* identity anchor that should be discouraged. A gateway fetish that leads to racial supremacism, eugenics etc.

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    5. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire Apr 22
      Replying to @vgr

      Being a billionaire can be a burden. It can also be a blessing. It’s almost like things aren’t all one way or the other. In fact it’s not a bad analogy. Being born into wealth should be a blessing. But if a person isn’t raised in a way that helps them avoid the pitfalls of it...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 22
      Replying to @legalinspire

      We understand each other now Sure wealth has its burdens, but do you notice many billionaires giving it all away and choosing actual poverty instead?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 22
      Replying to @vgr @legalinspire

      That’s why it’s disingenuous to treat the burden of wealth the same as the burden of poverty. Or the burden of high IQ the same as the burden of say a crippling disease. Or the burden of so-called ‘reverse racism’ the same as that of racism.

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    8. Marc Whipple - Legal Inspiration!‏ @legalinspire Apr 22
      Replying to @vgr

      Was somebody doing that?

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 22
      Replying to @legalinspire

      That recent trend is the reason IQ is in the news again. The whole “SJWs are suppressing the truth about IQ differences between races and genders and oppressing smart people” narrative. Only ever comes up when people are trying to enter a strength into an oppression Olympics.

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    10. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 22
      Replying to @vgr @legalinspire

      that's the most extreme fringe position in the recent IQ discourse. reflects a nasty ressentiment more than a reality that impacts anyone's daily life imo. the real driver of that discourse is/was less about racial IQ differences and more about media discourse control.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 22
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr @legalinspire

      I'm partial to McWhorter's position on the topic though. He's said a few times something like "it really sucks that even the academics aren't allowed to talk about it amongst themselves without calling down a shitstorm. Non-academics should probably just drop it entirely."

      9:05 AM - 22 Apr 2018
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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 22
          Replying to @danlistensto

          There’s a sort of justification to that condition of discourse. It’s the social science equivalent of nuclear weapons research. Needs tighter regulation not because there are no truths there, but because even the slightest mistakes are so damn costly.

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 22
          Replying to @vgr

          I can agree with that stance. Would be happier if better people than Voxsplaining were doing the regulating.

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