Decriminialization turns them into white markets. Which is very ironic phrasing when it comes to both of the examples under discussion, I must say.
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Replying to @legalinspire @sonyaellenmann
a white market would be taxed and regulated, no? decrim is a gray market. technically illegal, but unenforced so done relatively in the open (to whatever the boundaries set by police are).
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but again, what is the argument in favor of decrim instead of legalization? that the regulations for full legalization might be bad? that's a poor argument in my opinion. just raw pessimism.
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In the case of commercial sex, "legalization" refers to laws and regulations permitting it; decriminalization, the absence of laws banning it. Latter case preferable (imo) given likely forms of US legalization
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is this different than the way the terminology is used w.r.t drug policy? I've never seen it used the way you're describing. Decrim means "still technically illegal, and subject to change at a whim, but for now the police ignore it"
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Replying to @danlistensto @eigenrobot and
I have to say Dan's understanding is closer to my own. e.g. MJ decriminalization does not mean McWeed is legal.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky @danlistensto and
Interesting, the meaning of decriminalization that I've encountered is "it's not criminal anymore" so basically the explanation eigenrobot gave
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @AlexGodofsky and
Now that it comes up, I've heard both used, in both contexts. It's very confusing and a lot of the terminology is agenda-driven.
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Let's start a lexicographical revolution and set terms ourselves. Legalization means brought into a regulatory scheme. Decriminalization means the law simply no longer takes notice of it. Anarchotyranization means we have laws but cops don't bother unless they do. Who's with me?
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the only time I have seen decriminalization used in the sense Dan is describing it is when there are multiple law agencies in an area and only one is decriminalizing.
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well, that's literally everywhere in America (and most Western countries that have state vs. national government distinctions). Municipal vs. State vs. Federal as well as FBI vs. DEA vs. Coast Guard.
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