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    1. Saloni‏ @salonium Apr 15

      Presenting "objective" "Western" science as being in opposition to "brown people" and "indigenous ways of knowing" is ridiculous & condescending (as if non-white people are incapable of objectivity.) It's absurd to have this pseudoscience elevated by TED http://blog.ted.com/enlightenment-or-entitlement-a-response-to-steven-pinker-from-a-panel-of-ted-fellows/ …pic.twitter.com/I6cAt3uInQ

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    2. Molten Steel‏ @_molten_steel_ Apr 15
      Replying to @salonium

      I'll try to steelman this. Apparently there are a bunch of ways to model linear algebra. None are the *correct* way, but all can be useful depending on what you are doing. Or Aristotilean binary logic vs. Buddhist 4 order logichttps://aeon.co/essays/the-logic-of-buddhist-philosophy-goes-beyond-simple-truth …

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 15
      Replying to @_molten_steel_ @salonium

      tangent. that was a great article but I think so much confusion is related to translation and also discursive style, which is that the apparent mystification was popular in ancient India (and is again today in western academia, though for different reasons).

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    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 15
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      > The nature of things is to have no nature; it is their non-nature that is their nature. For they have only one nature: no-nature. this could be paraphrashed and differently translated in a way that would resolve more clearly to 21st century westerners

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 15
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      suggested: "the objects of consciousness have no essential characteristics. the absence of essential traits is defining of that class of objects. The entire class is defined by contingent, contextual characteristics alone."

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 15
      Replying to @danlistensto @_molten_steel_ @salonium

      though that leaves us now wondering whether or not we ought to apply this point of view to assumedly outside-the-mind objects as well, which is where the western perspective would begin to significantly diverge.

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        1. Molten Steel‏ @_molten_steel_ Apr 15
          Replying to @danlistensto @salonium

          Yes. Much Indian philosophy has something like a strong form of phenomenology built in, so they literally mean that no-nature applies to everything

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