I find that interesting because my first meditation teacher was seventy something years old of the Tibetan lineage and she told me not to "bliss out". Most well regarded books on meditation cover this pretty extensively and so do the discourses. This all eluded you?
-
-
psychedelics are faster than meditation. the accelerated pace of it forces confrontation with these after-affects in a way that can't really be ignored the way a McMindfulness stress reduction teacher might be able to ignore the dark side of awakening on meditation.
-
the issue is how do we make sure people get the support and guidance they need to reintegrate after an awakening? well, I'm suggesting that the psychedelic path makes the necessity of it so glaringly obvious and in your face that the blindspots are less likely to develop.
-
it's the very fact that its faster and more dangerous that makes the importance of safely handling awakening so clear and present.
End of conversation
New conversation -
-
-
This is part of the language that i find problematic: dark side of awakening. What is this about? Meditating, psychedelics may lead to a deeper understanding of oneself where subconscious energies are made conscious. But this is not awakening, merely self-reflection.
-
not my terminology, has become commonly used in some of the discourse on the topic. do you find the language problematic because of its negative emotional valence or because you find it unclear or obfuscating in some way?
-
I explained that the problem is these "dark" experiences are not "awakening". They are just experiences.
-
in the literature these labels are applied to experiences that come after an awakening experience. you're right that they aren't awakening. they're after-effects that are experienced consistently by many meditators.
-
Perhaps these meditators weren't actually awake. Perhaps these experiences are merely evidence of a mind fraught with delusion. Who amongst us can honestly tell?
-
I don't view awake as a binary state. It's not a light switch. It's a path. Awakening events (plural) are sign posts on the path.
-
Or could they be signs of diving deeper into delusion? How can one tell the difference?
End of conversation
New conversation -
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.