have spent the last 8 years working on 3 different office workflow SaaS products and can confirm. users have NO FUCKING IDEA what they need. they only know what they've used, which is mostly Excel, so they give all feedback in terms of Excel. https://twitter.com/Garudina/status/850489503483543552 …
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Replying to @danlistensto
that's because excel is the best programming language and IDE ever invented and people need to work on making Better Excel
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky
it's not. it's an evolutionary dead end that grew from the pre-internet "killer app" business model that spent billions of dollars to develop and market a second rate system exposing limited programming capabilities to semi-technical workers.
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Replying to @danlistensto @AlexGodofsky
the value is that Excel exposes a limited subset of programming-like features to people who don't otherwise know how to program. that's better solved by developing better programming languages (or DSLs anyway) and IDEs for them.
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Replying to @danlistensto
The value of Excel is that it shows every intermediate step of the calculation at all times, producing a faster OODA loop than any conventional programming language.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky @danlistensto
If you took Excel and made it more structured than a two-dimensional array - e.g. a collection of much smaller, named "sheets" - and also made it easier to treat an entire worksheet as a parameterized function, *that* would be a huge deal.
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Replying to @AlexGodofsky
yeah, that's kinda what I'm getting at. but now you've broken the Excel "everything is a kluge matrix" paradigm and developed it into a proper visual DSL and IDE.
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I guess we fundamentally agree. I really want to break out of framing things in terms of Excel though.
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