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    1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Apr 9

      It's depressing but also interesting to watch the regulatory capture vis a vis Facebook happen in real-time.

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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 9
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      moderately horrifying actually. Facebook has metastasized to the point where it is in some sense an organ of the state (though privately owned/operated at the moment). That the state is now coming to terms with this and actively changing that relationship portends a dark future.

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 9
      Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

      Maybe I'm just paranoid but I see any outcome besides anti-trust as being really bad for the people.

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    4. instagram model checker‏ @kushnerbomb Apr 9
      Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

      this is silly and paranoid and not paranoid enough, antitrust regulation of facebook would also end up being really bad for the human race

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 9
      Replying to @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann

      I'm interested in your perspective. Can you say more?

      9:22 AM - 9 Apr 2018
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        2. instagram model checker‏ @kushnerbomb Apr 9
          Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          I mean let’s suppose that we had a Bell style solution, where Facebook breaks up into several smaller companies

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        3. instagram model checker‏ @kushnerbomb Apr 9
          Replying to @kushnerbomb @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          Now we’ll have Instagram, Messenger, Facebook Prime, etc., each with their own lobbying departments, each fighting for higher barriers to entry for competitors

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        4. instagram model checker‏ @kushnerbomb Apr 9
          Replying to @kushnerbomb @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          (There are also hard corpgov questions here; does the Zuck get a special class of equity in all the successor companies that gives him essentially full control? If so, are we doing anything, really? If not, what are we doing instead?)

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        5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 9
          Replying to @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann

          suppose the breakup of FB wasn't along verticals, but along horizontals. I feel like there's a scale issue here. 1 network of 1 billion people is dangerous. 1000 networks of 1 million people is useful.

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        6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 9
          Replying to @danlistensto @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann

          i.e. a vertical breakup would just unbundle the 7(ish) billion person networks that FB currently controls into 7 different functions each consistenting of a billion person network. that's still in the problem/dangerous territory.

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        7. simpolism‏ @simpolism Apr 9
          Replying to @danlistensto @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann

          There's a fundamental tension where tech companies basically exist to take advantage of economies of scale, so antitrust suits also destroy the value. The solution looks more like utilities regulations. Single provider allowed but a minimum service standard required.

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        8. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Apr 9
          Replying to @simpolism @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann

          how can that be managed if the provider is also a media company that sells advertisements? if that's the direction it goes then the FB "users are the product, advertisers are the customers" model is being ruled illegal b/c harmful. Maybe that's correct.

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        9. simpolism‏ @simpolism Apr 9
          Replying to @danlistensto @kushnerbomb @sonyaellenmann

          Nah, FB would still sell the data, but it'd become subject to HIPAA-like regulations guaranteeing a degree of anonymity. (What, you thought healthcare providers _weren't_ selling your data?)

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