Also, a lot of the left in the West has a pretension to multiculturalism that is undermined by acknowledgement that in some places people believe really shitty things. So they have to downplay these differences or else come across as too imperialist.
the productive position, which I've seen from like exactly 1 person in the entire world (Maajid Nawaz) is to encourage positive outcomes for marginalized people at risk of radicalization by focusing on community support and social integration with broader society.
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and that path is mysteriously not promoted by anyone basically. de-marginalization (aka assimilation) is at odds with intersectionality so the left doesn't want it. the right has bigotry problems and prefer to marginalize.
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I know little about Nawaz other than his association with Harris and how he was smeared by the SPLC. His views strike me as a little too conciliatory to the right and a little naïve about how likely liberalizing a religion will work, but he seems well-intentioned.
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I agree about that outlook on the left and right though. It’s just unfortunate that there isn’t the political will for something better right now.
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very unfortunate indeed. politics has always been shitty but at the moment it's just a freak show.
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