why is there such a blindspot about Islamic extremism on the left? I feel like I understand a lot of their other blind spots but this one is a mystery to me. Why do they implicitly, often unconsciously, cover for an ideology that ought to be totally anathema to them?
that's the right wing hawk position (bombing) but I don't think it follows the best response to an evil terrorist organization is airstrikes. seems counterproductive, on examination of the historical record. ignoring is counterproductive too though.
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literally nobody knows what an actually effective response is. failure to acknowledge this is the cause of enormous political problems. humility is supposed to be a "conservative" virtue but is completely absent from the "conservative" (hawk) foreign policy establishment.
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I just can't get over the absurdity of the left hand-in-sanding it about actual ISIS style terrorists shooting up nightclubs in America though. they don't have a solution either but their response is like straight-jacket worthy.
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But what do they have to gain from accepting it? Right wingers will use it as a cudgel against them and things just get potentially nastier for their Muslim friends.
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ok, so that's the pure factionalism case. if that's what it is, then that's what it is, but that's definitely a form of dysfunctional psychosis.
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the productive position, which I've seen from like exactly 1 person in the entire world (Maajid Nawaz) is to encourage positive outcomes for marginalized people at risk of radicalization by focusing on community support and social integration with broader society.
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and that path is mysteriously not promoted by anyone basically. de-marginalization (aka assimilation) is at odds with intersectionality so the left doesn't want it. the right has bigotry problems and prefer to marginalize.
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I know little about Nawaz other than his association with Harris and how he was smeared by the SPLC. His views strike me as a little too conciliatory to the right and a little naïve about how likely liberalizing a religion will work, but he seems well-intentioned.
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I agree about that outlook on the left and right though. It’s just unfortunate that there isn’t the political will for something better right now.
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I agree that “bomb the bad guys” is a pretty bad take, but I think a large swath of the harder left is utterly opposed to America playing any role on the international stage. I think they are right that America has played a crucial role, via its reckless foreign policy,
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of creating ISIS and other monsters, but the left has become very cynical about humanitarian intervention. This means that they will end up denying atrocities far too flippantly because of how the charge can be misused. Chomsky on Cambodia springs to mind as an antecedent.
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