I think if we limit the idea of meditation as being attentional training, we can say that it’s best to keep that as front and center in the practice, which means ignoring the fireworks at every opportunity. Meditation is more for many, so it’s not a blanket proscription.
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Ignoring the fireworks, AFAIK, is standard to most. It's the approach to everything else that varies. Do you approach the Void, pull away from it, ignore it altogether, serenade it with songs...? Do you call the Void a thing or do you just think about Nibannah or flow? Etc.
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I boil it down to ‘has awareness w/out objects been recognized as the source of the experience of being’.
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Very Zen. But then, you could also just do Theravada/Vajrayana and do fucking magic. Not that I would recommend it, personally.
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does that work?
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Vajrayana, I personally doubt it. I know many people who are as on the mark from Theravada as anyone else can claim, with or without magic.
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I believe in magic I can see on my kitchen table.
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I didn't say I believe in magic. I said people who practice it sometimes have powerful realizations akin to results from meditation. When they don't go completely insane, that is. Well, sometimes then, too.
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Replying to @Triquetrea @Kalieezchild and
it's an alternative approach to stillness. it's the path of perturbation. either way you're playing with the pool in order to see how the waves flow through it.
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