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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Robin Hanson‏Verified account @robinhanson Mar 27

      Decades ago most predicted we'd care lots for privacy. Then we saw in fact most sold it for cheap. Today, w/ reports of foreigners & other party using such info to influence votes, many say they care lots. My guess: as voting angle fades, folks will go back to caring little.

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    2. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Mar 27
      Replying to @robinhanson

      Do most people know they are selling privacy for cheap when they do so? Has some of it just been a lack of vigilance, because they assumed the government was protecting their privacy? What are some examples of selling privacy for cheap?

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
      Replying to @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

      #DeleteFacebook

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    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
      Replying to @danlistensto @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

      less flippantly... did they know? unsure how aware most people are of the real economics of surveillance capitalism, but they must know that if the price is $0 they're paying with something else, even if it's not clear what else that is exactly.

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
      Replying to @danlistensto @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

      I have to assume that most people are not totally oblivious and can connect dots though. How many encounters with an ultra-targeted ad in your sidebar do you look at before understanding what's going on?

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    6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
      Replying to @danlistensto @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

      I sincerely doubt many people had faith in the government to protect their privacy. the government spies on everyone already. I expect most people did not distinguish the difference b/t passive ads (TV, billboards, etc.) that they're used to and intelligently targeted ads.

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    7. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
      Replying to @danlistensto @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

      perhaps they understood superficially that the targeted ads were a new type of thing, but they didn't really understand what the system-wide impact of that is and what the implications are. hard to get out of your own skull enough to see the forest for the trees.

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    8. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Mar 27
      Replying to @danlistensto @robinhanson

      Given all that, how much choice do users have? Robin seems to be blaming individuals for giving away their own privacy. The situation seems more complicated to me. At the least, if all your friends are using FB, the opportunity costs of not using it might be underestimated here.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
      Replying to @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

      I think you're right that people were willing to use it because of the peer pressure and network effects. Whole lotta buyer's remorse going on right now though. The cost they paid was much higher than they realized.

      11:24 AM - 27 Mar 2018
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        2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
          Replying to @danlistensto @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

          the reaction from some (regulation advocates) is a bad case of "having your cake and eating it too" thinking. I can't imagine ANY regulatory regime that addresses the fundamental problems of a service like FB in a way that doesn't make the problem worse. Creeping authoritarianism

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        3. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Mar 27
          Replying to @danlistensto @robinhanson

          It seems some straightforward regulations (if followed) could prevent what happened with Cambridge Analytica, without plunging us into broad authoritarianism. "Good" regulation is a necessary ingredient for liberty and for individualism. Bad regs are another story.

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        4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 27
          Replying to @Evolving_Ego @robinhanson

          yes. now, look who's in congress. are these people you expect to pass good legislation?

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        5. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Mar 27
          Replying to @danlistensto @robinhanson

          :D The first regulations we need are against corporate influence over our legislative and regulatory agencies. Unfortunately, we have foxes guarding the hen house.

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        6. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego Mar 27
          Replying to @Evolving_Ego @danlistensto @robinhanson

          I suppose some might argue that we have a revealed preference for corrupt governance 🤣

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