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    1. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24

      So basically academia is the state church in the theocratic republic of America, eh 🤔 This was written in 2009, before social media started really kicking into overdrive. Wonder how Moldbug would revise his POV if he were 10 years younger, writing this today from 1st principles

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    2. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24

      Interesting claim: historically in the US, Universities have always had a leftward pull on mainstream discourse and public opinion – except for a few brief periods of reaction, always periods of anti-university activity. (Ah, that's where "Neo-Reactionaries" comes from!)pic.twitter.com/msskApcU2q

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    3. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24

      This is a stunning ?! chess move – "right = order = good, left = chaos = bad" All politics aside, this is some killer storytelling. I need to know how the hell he's going to explain thispic.twitter.com/8VRN4fufoG

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    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 24
      Replying to @visakanv

      this is the moment where Moldbug jumps the shark and hits the trash-heap of so many other authors who (Marx most famously) who got the critique right and then went on to construct tragicomically bad manifestos in response.

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    5. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24
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      Having read The Communist Manifesto recently, I get the sense that the actual manifesto was really just guerrilla marketing for the critique of capitalism (which to this day most people haven't internalized). See also: Slatestarcodex post about PETAhttps://twitter.com/visakanv/status/970957217867317254 …

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      #nowreading The Communist Manifesto: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf …
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    6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 24
      Replying to @visakanv

      That might be correct. It's an enormous mistake. You simply won't get people who are only capable of shallow engagement to level up into deep engagement by trolling them with agitprop and empty promises.

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    7. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24
      Replying to @danlistensto

      What's the best alternative? I have a sneaking suspicion that it might've possibly been the least bad of all the possible shitty outcomes

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    8. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 24
      Replying to @visakanv

      alternative to what? circulating shitty manifestos? the best alternative is not doing that at all. pamplets and libels don't create durable mass movements that make positive impacts. they create enraged torch-wielding mobs.

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    9. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 24
      Replying to @danlistensto @visakanv

      how to do persuasion at scale? you don't. persuasion isn't something that scales, as far as I can tell. real change is slow, inter-generational, and requires immense discipline and human-heartedness to do well.

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    10. visakan veerasamy‏ @visakanv Mar 24
      Replying to @danlistensto

      I mean – if you were in Karl Marx's shoes in 1848, and you felt that capitalism was toxic and needed to be critiqued, and that everyone should know about it, how would you go about doing it? (I don't have a good answer, just curious for alternate takes)

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 24
      Replying to @visakanv

      I don't know what I would do. I think the history of Charles Darwin working on his manuscript for Origin of Species is a fascinating counter-example though. Also a revolutionary text but Darwin was painstakingly cautious.

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