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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Mar 14

      Poll: What sort of species should we aim to evolve into through this period of Great Weirding and arrival into the anthropocene?

      26 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
      Replying to @vgr

      whatever the appropriate label is for the trans-humanism where we develop informational immune systems. I think that involves elements of robo/cyborg transhumanism, and biohacked transhumanism, and also some kind of new program of mental and spiritual training.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

      I don't think we'll survive the transition to the internet era without this. we're like terminal AIDS patients at the moment.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. simpolism‏ @simpolism Mar 14
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

      What if "ideologies" *are* the "informational immune systems"? In that, an ideology is mostly resistant to new information, allowing the bearer to protect themselves from the pain of being wrong... (excerpt from Peterson, 2009)pic.twitter.com/oUB1Gy1JP9

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
      Replying to @simpolism @vgr

      an ideology is a virulent pathogen. that is also emits counter-agents to keep out competing pathogens is just a sign of how virulent it really is.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. simpolism‏ @simpolism Mar 14
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

      If ideologies are a pathogen, what exactly are they infecting, and what is the normal/functional state?

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    7. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
      Replying to @simpolism @vgr

      at risk of torturing the analogy, but lets keep going for now. they infect minds. the healthy state is a mind where there is no strong commitment to any ideology, rendering ideas on equal footing to be evaluated contextually, and weighed against evidence.

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    8. simpolism‏ @simpolism Mar 14
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

      sounds like this "healthy mind" is merely a prioritization of one particular ideology (in this case some sort of enlightenment rationality) over the others... that said, I agree that enlightenment rationality is a reasonably good sort of ideology.

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    9. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
      Replying to @simpolism @vgr

      no. I'm making a stronger claim than "enlightenment rationality is good". a healthy mind resists ALL ideological possession, including being possessed by enlightenment rationality. @meaningness work on meta-rationality is about that, among other things

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    10. simpolism‏ @simpolism Mar 14
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr @Meaningness

      I guess what I'm trying to say is: what if "rendering ideas on equal footing to be evaluated contextually, and weighed against evidence" is itself a "strong [ideological] commitment"? and what if that's okay/good?

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
      Replying to @simpolism @vgr @Meaningness

      I don't want to get bogged down in semantics as to whether the stance of emptiness/receptivity counts as an ideology. I do agree that it's good though :)

      12:13 PM - 14 Mar 2018
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        1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Mar 14
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          to switch analogies again: ideologies are very yang. too much in fact. need more yin.

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