J.K. appeals to people like me who align with skeptical Buddhism. It's a side of Buddhism that few people espouse, like Stephen Batchelor, the Non-Buddhists, J.K. took it all the way out to 'don't believe anything, not even me.'
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Sorry Shaun, I’m probably being overly harsh here. Keep on keeping on with your rebellion. May it reach exhaustion as quickly as possible.
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Rebelling against what? No one has any authority over what I believe or practice. That's totally my decision. There's nothing to rebel against.
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Then what are you rebelling against? Why is it so important that other people know this? Why was it so important from Krishnamurti?
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He didn't say he was rebelling against anything. You said he was.
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Well, in my experience when someone goes on and on about how no one can tell them what to do, they are rebelling against something.
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I'll let Shaun speak for himself. My own feeling is that Buddhism is a path of liberation and that necessarily aligns it with a certain rebelliousness and anti-authoritarian outlook. That it isn't usually practiced that way is something I have trouble reconciling.
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Yeah, I get that. It’s a religion for most people, in the popular sense of how religion is understood. Deconstructing that is an important developmental leap. Reintegrating healthy forms of authority (inner and outer sources) is for me a yet further step of development.
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Replying to @VincentHorn @danlistensto and
Here’s the problem: if no one can tell each other something more true then they can tell themselves (I.e. there’s no authority) then no one will call out bullshit if/when they see it. THIS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST GIFTS WE CAN GIVE EACH OTHER!!!!
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yes, of course, but there is an enormous and impactful difference between being persuasive and using power to enforce conformity of thought. Argument from authority is one of the worst fallacious positions but it's the default for most religious communities.
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e.g. Heliocentrism was called out as bullshit at one time
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