J. Krishnamurti's basic message was to tell every religious or spiritual leader in the world to go fuck themselves. Don't believe anybody and don't join anything. It's a pretty acerbic message that some people just can't take.
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Well, in my experience when someone goes on and on about how no one can tell them what to do, they are rebelling against something.

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I'll let Shaun speak for himself. My own feeling is that Buddhism is a path of liberation and that necessarily aligns it with a certain rebelliousness and anti-authoritarian outlook. That it isn't usually practiced that way is something I have trouble reconciling.
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Yeah, I get that. It’s a religion for most people, in the popular sense of how religion is understood. Deconstructing that is an important developmental leap. Reintegrating healthy forms of authority (inner and outer sources) is for me a yet further step of development.
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Here’s the problem: if no one can tell each other something more true then they can tell themselves (I.e. there’s no authority) then no one will call out bullshit if/when they see it. THIS IS ONE OF THE GREATEST GIFTS WE CAN GIVE EACH OTHER!!!!
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yes, of course, but there is an enormous and impactful difference between being persuasive and using power to enforce conformity of thought. Argument from authority is one of the worst fallacious positions but it's the default for most religious communities.
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Yes, so for those of us who have clearly left that behind (or say that we have!) why are we still so focused in the rearview mirror? What lies beyond this differentiation of power? Integration, I think. Better ways of working with power than self-contradictory rejection.pic.twitter.com/KsA9cKuHTR
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It’s a massive exercise of power to say that I’m the locust of power and that others aren’t.
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It’s also delusional when viewing things from a networked, instead, of individualist standpoint. We are constantly influencing each other in ways that are hard to combat, even here on twitter.
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If it were obvious to them that there isn’t someone who can tell them what to do, why even bring it up? My guess is it’s an attempt to tell others the good news (I.e. the gospel).
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I can relate to this. I did this too. Where I’m at with it now is that confusion tyrannical power (“power over”) with influence over (“power to”) is to cut off the source of our greatest power, each other, and to become insulated with “peers” who are all singing the same song.
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This practice of mine is something that I developed from integrating insights gained during meditation. Confronting that conformist urge (even conformity in rebellion) is critical.https://twitter.com/danlistensto/status/971819663603748864 …
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