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    1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Feb 19

      Damore's position, I think, is wrong. His claim that gender differences are explained by women preferring 'people' subjects flounders on the much better male/female split in match, biology, etc. However, he has a right to make his case, and should not be villified for it.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Feb 19
      Replying to @ColumPaget

      the reality is that we don't really know why there's a more pronounced gender difference in computer programming than in other technical fields.

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        2. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Feb 19
          Replying to @danlistensto

          oh, I do. It's another thing I've been saying for years, this one since my early teens. Compsci has more 'geek' stigma attached to it, and more women respond strongly to social stigma than men. I can even make some falsifiable predictions for this...

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Feb 19
          Replying to @ColumPaget

          I tend to agree with that and it's been my go-to BS explanation. not that it's necessarily wrong, but it's BS because it's just conjecture and my own personal biases are thoroughly baked in. At this point though you're not allowed to even ask "why?" on this topic.

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        4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Feb 19
          Replying to @danlistensto @ColumPaget

          the partisans have already decided what acceptable answers are, and they have announced their intention to throw bricks at those disagreeing.

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        1. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Feb 19
          Replying to @danlistensto

          as the stigma goes away (it's much less now than it was, but still not completely gone) so the number of women choosing compsci will eventually start to go back up, all other things being equal. Unfortunately all other things arent equal.

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        2. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Feb 19
          Replying to @danlistensto @ColumPaget

          Also, I think math is very distinct from "general computer tech stuff defined broadly" I mean, I have literal clinical dyscalculia and I mostly survive okay in tech.

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        3. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Feb 19
          Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi @danlistensto

          I agree, I'm the same, can't math for toffee. But that's not relevant to Damore's point. He divided things up into 'people' subjects and 'thing' subjects. Women are prevalent in many "thing" subjects, but not compsci.

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        4. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Feb 19
          Replying to @ColumPaget @danlistensto

          pssst, routers are people :-P (and, more importantly, programmers are people)

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        5. ColumPaget‏ @ColumPaget Feb 19
          Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi @danlistensto

          my god, that means... open source projects are MADE OF PEOPLE!!

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