Anyone have thoughts on why passions run so high around Jordan Peterson? Seems to be an unusually polarizing figure.
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Replying to @KennethFolk
Have you heard what
@_michaelbrooks has to say about him? Basically, he offers advice to lost young men about money and sex. He puts forward a socially conservative worldview in which they deserve to be at the top of the social hierarchy. Many get offended when that's questioned2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
I agree with everything you've said except "in which they deserve to be at the top" which I think is a mischaracterization of JBP's views. I think he would claim that hierarchy is inevitable and the ones at the top have won some sort of competitive sorting game.
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That's an interesting distinction. I think that there's at least something very similar to the feeling that one deserves to be at the top, and the idea that based on one's personal qualities one has won or will win whatever competition happens to exist to get to the top
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Replying to @byline_dreamer @danlistensto and
And then the main question I'd ask is this: in his picture of things, to what extent are personal qualities the determinative factor of who wins the sorting game, as opposed to circumstances outside one's control, luck, inheritance, and so on?
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I've listened to him speak at length. My overwhelming impression is that he does NOT make the fundamental attribution error. His psychological training and clinical work has prevented him from making that mistake.
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Replying to @danlistensto @byline_dreamer and
What he does assert (with evidence) is that certain personality types are better suited for certain sorting games. He notes that cutthroat, workaholic, mildly sociopathic personalities tend to do well in corporate power hierarchies. He doesn't say this is a good thing.
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Replying to @danlistensto @byline_dreamer and
that might amount to a weak claim of personality determinism. Because he's got a clinical/self-help orientation though he tries to help people either improve at their relevant sorting game, or find a better environment where they are more able to thrive.
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this orientation is very different from what activists attempting to do institutional change are focused on though. it's a major point of contention. JBP says "adapt to your environment". The activists say "forcibly change the environment".
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