free will isn't silly, it's popular definitions of it that are askew. At the end of the day free will is, and can only be, acting in accordance with your own nature. The only alternative is dice-throwing. So there's no contradiction between free will and determinism.
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well, one might raise questions about conciousness. But I would agree that fish do. Fish definitely want to do fishy things, and preventing them from doing so is interferring with their free will.
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I think defining consciousness is a bit of a tough problem. I am not sure hard-disks or viruses qualify, I suspect fish might, but it's very hard to prove that. When harddrives or viruses start passing Turing tests, then I'll be ready to consider it.
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the Turing test is narcissistic twaddle
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Replying to @chaosprime @ColumPaget and
the Turing test was a thought experiment intended to address the idea of what machine intelligence, in principle, is capable of. this is a great read, and seems fresh and relevant 67 years later https://www.csee.umbc.edu/courses/471/papers/turing.pdf …
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recommend going right to section 6 "contrary views on the main question" for the philosophical discussion
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yeah, i should rather say "the Turing test considered as any kind of definitive benchmark of validity of an intelligence is narcissistic twaddle"
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right. the strangest thing about it is that it was later misinterpreted into being an actual contest, performed as a metric for the quality of conversation simulation algorithms. that emphatically wasn't the point of the the original thought experiment!
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