Sure, thinking about others' pain also makes one think about their own pain, and I have a lot of thoughts about male suffering too. It just didn't feel like the place to discuss it (and it's a trope for MRA-types to post "but what about men" in response to this kind of thing).
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I'm aware, but it's easy for one's actions, especially on sites like this, to be taken out of context. Also, my intent in recommending the original essay was to get people to consider a perspective different than their own...
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...and to reply with a topic that feels more relatable (i.e. men's pain) feels like shoving aside the topic I wanted to discuss and replacing it with an easier/hot-button target. I appreciate that you deleted the original comment, but I wanted to share my thoughts.
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dialogue is hard. the level of public discourse outside of our small circles of trust generally leads people to assume the worst, so I took your comment as well intentioned good advice. I never comment with the intent of "shoving aside" a discussion though.
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Sure, and I appreciate you took my comment in good faith. It wasn't intended as a personal attack. I didn't see your comment as an attempt to shove the discussion aside, but I do feel like one way discussions work is that people, if given an opening, will take advantage of it...
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...for example, this thread. I mentioned some topics and people latched onto those in particular (likely because they already had things they wanted to share about them), even though they weren't related to the point/idea I was trying to make/explore.https://twitter.com/simpolism/status/944759631343243264 …
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simpolism @simpolismReplying to @AmbiguityForm*rubs temples* my point is I didn't make this post to have conversations about feminism or rationalism in particular, they were just the first examples I thought of. Heidegger and Buddhism (as I referenced in a different thread) would've been better choices.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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well, case in point, this was my reply in that threadhttps://twitter.com/danlistensto/status/944805578739765248 …
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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop @danlistenstoReplying to @simpolismwe can't say if ideas are compatible or not unless we have some means of testing their implications or predictions. I think you're really asking if social movements with different aesthetics are compatible. The answer to that is a question: do they go to the same parties?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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which WAS NOT an attempt to derail or reframe the discussion, but I guess you didn't want to talk about that aspect of the topic
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To clarify further from that discussion, my point was to get into a discussion about how concepts/language constructs are related to another on an abstract level. I chose the examples I did because they have deep internal lexicons, not because I cared specifically about them.
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I thought that's what I was talking about too but water under the bridge
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Probably just a communication failure, then. I also wrote my original post in a sufficiently unclear manner that made it harder to determine what sort of discussion I wanted to have, so yeah I'd say water under the bridge.
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