I agree that women do suffer as a result of toxic masculinity, but I feel like toxic masculinity itself is a symptom of deeper cultural problems with "maleness". I'm partial to Erich Fromm's analysis from his book "The Art of Loving," which I'd share if I had my copy on-hand.
which WAS NOT an attempt to derail or reframe the discussion, but I guess you didn't want to talk about that aspect of the topic
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To clarify further from that discussion, my point was to get into a discussion about how concepts/language constructs are related to another on an abstract level. I chose the examples I did because they have deep internal lexicons, not because I cared specifically about them.
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I thought that's what I was talking about too but water under the bridge
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Probably just a communication failure, then. I also wrote my original post in a sufficiently unclear manner that made it harder to determine what sort of discussion I wanted to have, so yeah I'd say water under the bridge.
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