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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. undiscovered artifact‏ @brazen_cabeza 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @Meaningness and

      The grasping of abstractions for one

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. simpolism‏ @simpolism 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brazen_cabeza @Meaningness and

      What abstractions do most people need to grasp on a deep level?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. undiscovered artifact‏ @brazen_cabeza 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @Meaningness and

      Any map/territory contradistinction with real consequences really, and not necessarily strictly in the domain of pure sciences.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. simpolism‏ @simpolism 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brazen_cabeza @Meaningness and

      I would prefer a single concrete example.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. undiscovered artifact‏ @brazen_cabeza 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @Meaningness and

      Popular delusions in some quarters about the efficacy of the trickle-down hypothesis for its stated purpose.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. simpolism‏ @simpolism 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brazen_cabeza @Meaningness and

      There seem to be few concrete results for an individual in the general population that result from belief or disbelief in trickle-down. The individual doesn't directly benefit from the knowledge, but instead benefits by proxy from a changing zeitgeist. I wouldn't call it "real."

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. undiscovered artifact‏ @brazen_cabeza 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @Meaningness and

      If the perception drives policy it produces real consequences for real people. The results are felt at all levels of systems and can hardly be said not to be concrete.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. simpolism‏ @simpolism 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @brazen_cabeza @Meaningness and

      And yet the trickle-down zeitgeist took hold during the 80s, when systematicity was found at a *higher* level than now. Why did it fail?

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. simpolism‏ @simpolism 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @brazen_cabeza and

      This is a bit of an asshole move, sorry. I just wanted an example of an area where a single individual directly and immediately benefits in day-to-day life from being capable of systematic thinking.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. simpolism‏ @simpolism 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @brazen_cabeza and

      I strongly agree that systematic thought will produce better citizens, fwiw. But I fear regulatory capture, gerrymandering, media issues, etc. would render the gains from systematicity irrelevant.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @simpolism @brazen_cabeza and

      Well you just listed examples of how bad actors use systematic thinking to game the political system. If more of the public understood what was going on systematically rather than intuitively they might vote different.

      11:48 AM - 31 Dec 2017
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        2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 31 Dec 2017
          Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism and

          Intuition is very badly scrambled by tribalism and mood affiliation. Leads to voting for corrupt assholes who signal the right tribal shibboleths and speak to the mood of the crowd, usually fear.

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 31 Dec 2017
          Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism and

          Voting systematically would mean understanding which issues are relevant to your life and which policies aid you with acceptable tradeoffs. Mostly people don't vote this way though.

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