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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @danlistensto @PomoPsiOp

      In other words, he is the perfect warlord. Nothing matters besides his ability to use force, and he can use that force against anyone he chooses, for any reason he chooses.

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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @danlistensto @PomoPsiOp

      anyway, my point isn't to analyze a dystopian fiction. my point is that real people don't behave in the way you have suggested. if law enforcement is fundamentally about behavior control, it has to be tuned to the way people really behave, and that includes the enforcers.

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    3. Psi Operator‏ @PomoPsiOp 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @danlistensto

      I'm literally proposing we stop trying to control behavior, and instead relegate the "Warlord archetype" to something more akin to a gym teacher than somebody with actual authority.

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    4. Psi Operator‏ @PomoPsiOp 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @PomoPsiOp @danlistensto

      In a tribal society, a chief leads his warriors by being the most charismatic member of the tribe, they all have the same spears he does. He simply convinces them to direct their aggression away from the village. There is no need for coercion or hierarchy. Just direction.

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @PomoPsiOp

      which tribe?

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    6. Psi Operator‏ @PomoPsiOp 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @danlistensto

      Many. Like, I've literally lost count of how many times I've read an ethnographer explaing that the chief has to convince the other warriors to do anything because he doesn't actually have any authority over them outside of individual respect.

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    7. Psi Operator‏ @PomoPsiOp 26 Dec 2017
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      Like people will try to ask for specifics but there are so many tribes that all end up repeating the same social dynamics of "Do whatever the fuck you want there's enough food for everyone so we only really fight over women and/or cows, and it's mostly just ritualized posturing."

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    8. Psi Operator‏ @PomoPsiOp 26 Dec 2017
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      Hierarchical society is the result of agriculture dividing people into warriors and slaves. We just won't admit that anybody who isn't allowed to carry a weapon is obviously a slave.

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    9. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @PomoPsiOp

      it's the 2nd amendment though. who's we?

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    10. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @danlistensto @PomoPsiOp

      the 2nd amendment is the anti-warlordism clause of the constitution. it's the answer to who watches the watchmen.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto 26 Dec 2017
      Replying to @danlistensto @PomoPsiOp

      but there are still reasons we want due process and specialized law enforcement professionals.

      10:09 PM - 26 Dec 2017
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        1. Psi Operator‏ @PomoPsiOp 26 Dec 2017
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          Due process can happen after the shots are fired, and specialized law enforcement professionals are the definition of warlord.

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