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Sure but I would argue that the point of virtues is that they are good rules for producing good ends in general, despite such ignorance. Still the ends justify the rules.
For this consequentialist, virtues are good because of their results, not case by case, but in general. They are not good arbitrarily.
nobody tries to argue that virtues are good arbitrarily. viewing virtues as good because you believe they produce good consequences is the incorrect framing.
the issue is that we aren't good enough at knowing what the consequences of actions will be. virtue ethics is an attempt align decisions with traits that have a historical pattern of success.
Successful consequences
no, that's not what I mean, and this is not a good conversation. sorry to have wasted your time.
Sorry you see it as a waste. I agree completely with your previous characterization: historical patterns of success are what justify endorsing virtues.
I see it as a waste because you attempted to reduce legitimate alternative positions into special cases of your own position. If you attempt to understand a different thing in terms of something you already understand, that's an analogy, at best. Really it's just a trick.
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