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    1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Nov 6

       🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 Retweeted Don Hughes

      "If you were good at politics we would live [in] the society you want." That's a sick burn tbh My sentiment about libertarianism is similar: It's never gonna win because people (who aren't already libertarians) basically don't like it. C'est la vie.https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1059895926939095041 …

       🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 added,

      Don Hughes @getfiscal
      Not voting is fine, since it is statistically irrelevant and just a hobby for busybodies, but trying to make a big show about it is wrong. If you were good at politics we would live the society you want. Instead you’re complaining online about community organizing or something.
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    2. Rational Bot‏ @Rationalbot Nov 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      It seems to completely escape almost everyone but a handful of nutjobs like Bannon and some particularly insightful communists that the most politically influential bodies in a modern state do not include "the voters."

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    3.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Nov 6
      Replying to @Rationalbot

      I mean, that's the Manufacturing Consent thesis, which is pretty mainstream. The United States government and it's continuation processes are very complex and segmented into different parts. I don't think you can make a sweeping gesture and say "Group X controls all of this"

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    4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Nov 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann @Rationalbot

      I do think the political aristocracy / various strata of elites have more influence than the voting populace, especially insofar as they direct the votes of those beneath them, but voter-led upsets happen. Look at 2016.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Rational Bot‏ @Rationalbot Nov 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      No, my thesis is not that voters are led like sheep by the wave of a magical mind control staff. There are critical bureaucratic bodies, like DoD, where decision making and personnel acquisition is almost completely independent from any influence of democratic votes.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Nov 6
      Replying to @Rationalbot @sonyaellenmann

      this is it. there are no candidates you are permitted to vote for (they don't even show up on ballots) that are seriously committed to scaling back the military-industrial complex.

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    7. Rational Bot‏ @Rationalbot Nov 6
      Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

      United States cannot scale back the complex, it can only make it more efficient (it is, currently, a clusterfuck). Comes with being an imperial power.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Nov 6
      Replying to @Rationalbot @sonyaellenmann

      imperial power is not really compatible with democracy. thought we learned this approximately 2000 years ago. America has retained more of the democratic pageantry than most empires do though.

      12:16 PM - 6 Nov 2018
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        1. Rational Bot‏ @Rationalbot Nov 6
          Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          Democracy is not compatible with a state that's larger than a big village, let alone one where codified laws take armies of highly trained priest-scribes to decipher and interpret.

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