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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1.  😈‏ @turtlekiosk Nov 4

      it's toxic if you have a degree in CS and look down on people who did a bootcamp but in so many other industries it's okay to look down on people who didnt spend decades and hundreds of thousands of dollars getting hazed first

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    2.  😈‏ @turtlekiosk Nov 4

      some of the stuff that's called gatekeeping in programming is regular in other industries. no one bats an eye if you say you're not a real economist if you dont understand statistics

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Nov 4
      Replying to @turtlekiosk

      Mass delusion is happening. There aren't any plumbing bootcamps. No carpentry bootcamps. No lawyer or doctor bootcamps.

      3 replies 2 retweets 9 likes
    4. 𐐑𐑄𐐰𐑀𐑌𐐪𐑉 𐐡𐐰𐐼𐑀𐐰𐑊𐑁‏ @pthagnar Nov 4
      Replying to @danlistensto @turtlekiosk

      trade school diplomas are certainly faster to get than bachelors degrees, though

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Nov 4
      Replying to @pthagnar @turtlekiosk

      That's fine and good. It still takes 2 years, not 10 weeks. There's no national campaign to encourage broke and directionless young people to attempt to become plumbers en masse though.

      10:46 AM - 4 Nov 2018
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        2.  😈‏ @turtlekiosk Nov 4
          Replying to @danlistensto @pthagnar

          vocational schools was huge push for a while esp from the dems

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Nov 4
          Replying to @turtlekiosk @pthagnar

          Trade skills are mostly unionized professions, programming is not. I'm sure this is not lost on the "captains of industry" bankrolling bootcamps.

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        4. Paul Coddington‏ @PaulCoddington Nov 4
          Replying to @danlistensto @turtlekiosk @pthagnar

          Permanent positions are replaced by short term contracts, market floods with incompetent wannabes, employers hire by price without screening for skill, hourly rates drop to unsustainable levels, competent coders live hand-to-mouth and go broke, code bases turn to crap.

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        2. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Nov 4
          Replying to @danlistensto @pthagnar @turtlekiosk

          that's in part because plumbing as well as most electric work can be directly fatal. Shit code is more like a social psoriasis, just some weird ugly spots, it will take years to notice the joints are all but destroyed.

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        3.  😈‏ @turtlekiosk Nov 4
          Replying to @0K_ultra @danlistensto @pthagnar

          something something tort law will come for programming

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        1. Neutron Glitch‏ @neutronglitch Nov 4
          Replying to @danlistensto @pthagnar @turtlekiosk

          many trade unions put you to work immediately while you do night school training x days a week. this should explain a lot about why the for-profit certification programs have such horrible outcomes

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