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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Oct 25

      tendency of crested societies to observe dramatic declines in their birthrates is spooky going through the decline of Greece atm whats wrong with people get out and breed why dont you

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    2. NaNoDolo 📖  🖋️‏ @AmbrosialArts Oct 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      hey eigenrobot, do locations with overall similar political-economic conditions but different tax rates or different tax structures have different birthrates?

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    3. NaNoDolo 📖  🖋️‏ @AmbrosialArts Oct 25
      Replying to @AmbrosialArts @eigenrobot

      Maybe there's another variable to look at that could also impact things?pic.twitter.com/t7xRf8Dser

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    4. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Oct 25
      Replying to @AmbrosialArts

      imagine it's a contributing factor but even places that heavily subsidize births and childcare don't seem to see much response from such policies :/

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    5. NaNoDolo 📖  🖋️‏ @AmbrosialArts Oct 25
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      what if people don't make the decision based on their post facto "after a subsidy we'll have..." but based on whether they're experiencing real economic growth at that immediate moment?

      3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    6. Kia‏☆‏ @alt_kia Oct 25
      Replying to @notsonyaforwork @AmbrosialArts @eigenrobot

      oh is this the whole IQ shredder thing or something else

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    7. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Oct 25
      Replying to @alt_kia @notsonyaforwork @AmbrosialArts

      (??)

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 26
      Replying to @notsonyaforwork @eigenrobot and

      why is this considered a coherent argument? it completely discounts the possibility of class mobility or discovering talented individuals who are not presently identified by existing institutional structures, and yet there are tons of examples of it historically.

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        2. sam atman‏ @djinnius Oct 26
          Replying to @danlistensto @notsonyaforwork and

          It doesn't though. It says that finding such people (good) and sending them to college (Breeder's equation) after which they don't have kids (??) is an IQ shredder. Finding diamonds in the rough just serves to make it more effective.

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 26
          Replying to @djinnius @notsonyaforwork and

          but it extrapolates that to the level of the whole society, implying that reduced fertility among talented social climbers has a societal net of "shredding IQ". I don't think that claim is justified because it discounts influx of new talented people.

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        4. sam atman‏ @djinnius Oct 26
          Replying to @danlistensto @notsonyaforwork and

          Say we had a rule: you must be "this tall" to go to the city. City would get tall, country short, no? Now: city has one kid and country has three. We've only been doing it for three generations. Breeders equation can tell you the rest.

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        5. sam atman‏ @djinnius Oct 26
          Replying to @djinnius @danlistensto and

          There are free parameters. The direction of the constraints couldn't be clearer from the data.

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        6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 26
          Replying to @djinnius @notsonyaforwork and

          I don't think it's as simple as "city would get tall, country would get short". Yes, city would get tall. No, country wouldn't necessarily get short. It's not nearly as closed a system as the city, and it's supply of tallness is not so finite.

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        7. sam atman‏ @djinnius Oct 26
          Replying to @danlistensto @notsonyaforwork and

          oh you get paid more in the city, are awarded higher social standing, and have more sex partners. tall people tend to choose the city. even if they have short parents. maybe especially if.

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        8. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 26
          Replying to @djinnius @notsonyaforwork and

          granted. I find the argument that city gets influx of tall immigrants, and net increase in local tallness over time, to be coherent. It's the other half I'm questioning. Country does not necessarily get "drained".

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        9. sam atman‏ @djinnius Oct 26
          Replying to @danlistensto @notsonyaforwork and

          genes is as genes does you can't have one without the other

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        1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 26
          Replying to @danlistensto @notsonyaforwork and

          here's a personal favorite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srinivasa_Ramanujan …

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        1. Paul E  🖤 ✖️‏ @palecur Oct 26
          Replying to @danlistensto @notsonyaforwork and

          short answer: it's not a coherent argument

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