I think it's what Dan said about finding the whole cluster of attitudes and norms offputting
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It seems like the secular equivalent of freaking out because you see someone wearing a turban and you think that foreshadows the immediate imposition of sharia law. That's valid if there's a bunch of them in pickups w/ AK's (analogy left as exercise for reader), but usually not
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well, no, I don't think that's a fair analogy at all. the fact is we have at least some observed behavior of CoCs being used in a divisive and destructive fashion. it's not a case of mistaken identity to associate those pushing CoCs with those abusing CoCs for political games.
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obviously its not a 1-for-1 relationship. there are those advocating for CoCs who are absolutely not going to abuse them. how small of a disruptive minor faction does it take to ruin things for everyone though? not very many it turns out.
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I'm not at all convinced there's enough to be suspicious of the whole project. Concern about collateral damage, sure. But as far as I can tell it's more of 'useful tool with some isolated cases of abuse' than 'pretext for abuse with the occasional reasonable use'
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I'm a DevOps/SRE. I'm paid to think about systemic failure modes.
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chilling effects are a real thing. the CoC is intended to chill certain types of speech (which is probably a good thing) but it's a blunt instrument and I'm far too Hobbesian in my worldview to trust any organization to be able to utilize this blunt instrument forever.
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the really nasty things about written codes is that they become more and more difficult to dislodge and revise once adopted, even after clear problems emerge. orgs that don't yet have a problem due to their CoC are still operating with a risk codified into their org rules.
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how about orgs without CoC's? Can you think of any potential risks there?
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different ones and more manageable imo and ime. the main risk in an org without a codified CoC is that two parties in conflict might disagree about appropriate redress after the fact. a CoC forces them to agree before the fact, or exit the org.
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but I think disagreements of that kind are readily solvable on a case-by-case basis via arbitration and negotiation. that seems easier and more elegant than a formal CoC, and has less collateral damage.
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