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    1. Chāgmé‏ @chagmed Oct 13

      One characteristic of frauds is a tendency to speak authoritatively on matters outside their area of expertise. Only someone who doesn't understand climate feedbacks believes it can be "managed" by putting smart dudes "in charge".pic.twitter.com/6ur8UI180l

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    2. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Oct 13
      Replying to @chagmed

      The cascades are gonna hit us for centuries either way, no? No avoiding that. Not big on the authority model, either, but I do see the merit of engineering practical solutions. Personal characteristics, well... that's another story.

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    3. Chāgmé‏ @chagmed Oct 13
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      which solutions?

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    4. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Oct 13
      Replying to @chagmed

      Obviate major sources of pollution, for one thing. Pretty high percentage of this that is just down to embedded corruption, but I don't know that we have time for a revolution. That's issue nr. 1. The important missing link is that we have a lot of issues of tech suppression.

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    5. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Oct 13
      Replying to @Triquetrea @chagmed

      If we're only getting the right tech when certain cartels feel like making money off it, that's going to kill us. What's your model for what to do (or not do)?

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    6. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Oct 13
      Replying to @Triquetrea @chagmed

      There is also pretty clear second-order effects of any sort of ecological collapse: Bunch of technical debt going to be paid for in full, and a lot of need for new solutions for all kinds of current tech. Those are almost certainly engineering problems + (very) local politics.

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    7. Sindre‏ @Triquetrea Oct 13
      Replying to @Triquetrea @chagmed

      While climate scientists are almost certainly right about a lot of the bigger picture stuff, a lot of models will be inadequate with this amount of cascades. Another engineering problem. (Again, I think the God-Emperor Musk stuff is garbage. But we'll have to face this.)

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    8. Chāgmé‏ @chagmed Oct 13
      Replying to @Triquetrea

      My model what to do/not - no geoengineering - no tech (e.g. nuclear) that burdens future generations - rapid carbon phase-out - reduce population - solar/wind - simplify lifestyles

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    9. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 13
      Replying to @chagmed @Triquetrea

      that's probably the opposite of what will actually happen though

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 13
      Replying to @danlistensto @chagmed @Triquetrea

      if you take a hard realist stance and capitulate to the fact that you simply won't be able to persuade the world to reduce population and simplify lifestyles, what options are you left with that can make any meaningful difference to climate degradation at all?

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