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    1. rubot‏ @rubot Oct 3

      Thinking about Robert Anton Wilson's idea of "reality tunnels" and generally the concept that we make and use models of the world to help us understand it, and then applying it specifically to something like meditation and/or nonduality / realisation etc.

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    2. rubot‏ @rubot Oct 3

      So, if you are of a scientific bent, and are a practitioner, you might have a model of meditation and nonduality that is explainable on these terms. A "religious" person has a model which is overtly religious in nature. But to me, often, these people are describing the same thing

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    3. rubot‏ @rubot Oct 3

      It's just their models are very different, but the experience and/or methods are often the same methods just coloured/explained/described using the language of their reality tunnels.

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    4. rubot‏ @rubot Oct 3

      So, i see more scientifically minded meditators sometimes dismissing others as being "mystical woo". And sometimes it is, but sometimes, both are talking about the very same thing, just in different language.

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    5. Zontali‏ @cognazor Oct 3
      Replying to @rubot

      Yes. This is why I still like listening to the "mystical woo" people sometimes. Not because I take them literally, but because I can resonate with the experience they are pointing to. I just take it more as a poetic language.

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    6. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Oct 3
      Replying to @cognazor @rubot

      also there is something to be said for gaining visibility of one's blind spots via proxy, by engaging woo-people/language/systems. Several v.woo people have helped me a lot, partly because they uncovered blind spots which went untouched by more sensible people/systems.

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    7. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ Oct 3
      Replying to @misen__ @cognazor @rubot

      PS: there's a joke about catholic priests and/or tantric lamas in there.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Oct 3
      Replying to @misen__ @cognazor @rubot

      a catholic priest, a tantric lama, and R. Kelly walk into a bar...

      8:32 AM - 3 Oct 2018
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