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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Sep 21
      Replying to @MimeticValue @danlistensto and

      At least give the man a fair trial where he gets to defend himself. Always assume innocent until proven guilty. This is the law in America.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Liggi‏ @Liggi Sep 21
      Replying to @MimeticValue @danlistensto and

      You're being pretty disingenuous. You know what he means, and what he was trying to say... but instead of engaging and responding to the point, you're getting hung up on the semantics.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Sep 21
      Replying to @Liggi @danlistensto and

      You should know by now that my main my thing is avoiding the sacrifice of innocent scapegoats. You're the one being disingenuous here. Innocent until proven guilty. If you take him to court for being fascist and they find him guilty, I'll accept it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Liggi‏ @Liggi Sep 21
      Replying to @MimeticValue @danlistensto and

      Where's my trial for being disingenuous? I thought it was innocent until proven guilty. You're being ridiculous, and you know it. Do you think describing people as "$5 lives" sounds like a fascist thing to say, or not?

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Sep 21
      Replying to @Liggi @danlistensto and

      It's elitist and anti-humanist. Fascism is something different. Fascism originates from fasces, meaning bundle of sticks, a metaphor for ethnic nationalist solidarity. He's not saying that here.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
      Replying to @MimeticValue @Liggi and

      more rhetoric and semantics. do you think elitist and anti-humanist ideas ought to be promoted?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
      Replying to @danlistensto @MimeticValue and

      Socratic questioning only gets you so far. I'll just say it in the affirmative. No, anti-humanist ideas (especially elitist varieties of them) ought not be promoted. Ideas _do_ motivate behavior and anti-humanist ideas are responsible for catastrophic mass movements.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Sep 21
      Replying to @danlistensto @Liggi and

      Mimetïc Value Retweeted Mimetïc Value

      I'm not promoting any ideas here other than assume innocence until proven guilty. But everyone here wants to jump on the scapegoating bandwagon.https://twitter.com/MimeticValue/status/1043141719116718082 …

      Mimetïc Value added,

      Mimetïc Value @MimeticValue
      No it's not. The fascists were elitist but they were humanists. You're slandering if you think that I'm defending evil ideas. All I'm saying is to assume innocence until proven guilty, which is the rule of conduct in classical liberal America.
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    9. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
      Replying to @MimeticValue @Liggi and

      I'm not scapegoating. I'm not a mob of people or an authority figure and I'm not putting anyone on trial or ritually casting them out. I'm confronting the anti-humanist ideas that are present in that rhetoric. They suck. They're shitty ideas that have caused a ton of harm.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Mimetïc Value‏ @MimeticValue Sep 21
      Replying to @danlistensto @Liggi and

      Ok, now we're getting somewhere. He's right here. Go have a discussion with him and persuade him that these ideas are bad.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
      Replying to @MimeticValue @Liggi and

      I'd rather persuade _you_. he's free to say any shitty thing he wants and maybe it makes for good horror fiction. what I care more about is getting _you_ to take a stronger stance against anti-humanist ideas because you seem like you actually care about humans in the first place.

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        2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
          Replying to @danlistensto @MimeticValue and

          you're a classicist and your family background is Chinese, right? I think you already know what this symbol means then. 仁 "human-heartedness" is my favorite translation of it. it's the most important virtue in classical Chinese thought.

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Žero HP Lovecraft‏ @0x49fa98 Sep 21
          Replying to @danlistensto @MimeticValue and

          Dan Garfield tells a Chinese man what the most important virtue in Chinese classical thought is. Interesting choice. Some might say it smacks of imperialism, racism, and cultural appropriation.

          4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
        4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
          Replying to @0x49fa98 @MimeticValue and

          lovely. I freely appropriate good ideas and freely criticize bad ideas. where is your human-heartedness? do you really believe what you write or is it just satire or hyperbole?

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 21
          Replying to @danlistensto @0x49fa98 and

          if it's satire or hyperbole than @MimeticValue's previous reference to Jonathan Swift would be on the mark and I will retract my criticism of your rhetoric. if you're sincere I feel comfortable saying your ideas are shitty

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