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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @cognazor @cultycove @basche42

      It's really weird that people keep labeling him a fascist or a reactionary. Has nobody listened to the hundreds of hours of him talking about how _not_ to become a Nazi? He's a center-right liberal ffs. Is it the accent that confuses people? He sounds a little rednecky.

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    2. Zontali‏ @cognazor Sep 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @cultycove @basche42

      I definitely think that the fascist/nazi references are way out of line. But not a reactionary, with his incessant talk of 'cultural marxism'? Please.

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @cognazor @cultycove @basche42

      it depends on what you mean by reactionary. I agree that is reacting against a trend in the academic left. I usually use the word reactionary to refer to someone supporting a program to, for example, restore monarchical rule or some kind of similar retrograde.

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    4. Zontali‏ @cognazor Sep 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @cultycove @basche42

      Sure, definitions are important. I am arguing the former kind. But he is doing it in a completely straw-man and hysterical way, which can be dangerous. See this article, for example:https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ …

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @cognazor @cultycove @basche42

      yes, it's a character flaw of his. he's high-strung and argumentative. I wouldn't call it a strawman precisely but more of a loss of precision due to constraints on communication. He would be better served with more precise speech on that topic.

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    6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @cognazor and

      and there's a certain irony to that of course because "speak precisely" is one of the 12 rules in his book. he's fucking up in that topic area with his speech. instead of "postmodern neomarxist" (meaningless snear words) he could just say "my leftwing opponents in the academy"

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    7. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @cognazor and

      but I think he deliberately chooses to argue against an ideology instead of a particular set of humans and he has principled reasons for doing that. he doesn't want to make an essential link between ideologies and people, and I think that's a good instinct.

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    8. Zontali‏ @cognazor Sep 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @cultycove @basche42

      I think I agree with that. Let's just hope that his followers follow the same example...

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    9. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @cognazor @cultycove @basche42

      who are his "followers"? he's not a cult leader, he's an edutainer. look, I authentically don't mean to stan for him. there's a lot to criticize and i'm happy to talk about that as well but cutting through the fog of culture war here is a necessary first step.

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    10. Ben Basche  🛸‏ @basche42 Sep 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @cognazor @cultycove

      Say Jordan Peterson 3 times out loud and watch your mentions. It absolutely is a cult

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
      Replying to @basche42 @cognazor @cultycove

      are you confusing loud voices on the internet for the reality of the situation?

      8:31 AM - 7 Sep 2018
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        1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Sep 7
          Replying to @danlistensto @basche42 and

          what does the word "cult" mean to you? to me it means something different than "obnoxious dudes on twitter argue about him in my mentions"

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