This claim reads like a more deeply-held "core value" to me than the ones you listed above.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
I do not see how "moral & personal judgments are more relevant to individuals than ethical & social judgments" is necessarily a rephrasing of "truth and utility".
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
an individual MUST know the truth and know what relevant actions to take in order to be considered as possessing "good morals", in my view. truth and utility are necessary (and often sufficient) for good morals.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
Are good morals necessary for everyone? Or merely for certain people?
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
by what standard? like, what proportion of individuals need to be morally good in order for society to have a chance at being ethical and harmonious? not sure, not 100% but perhaps some kind of super-majority. that's the intuition anyway.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
I was thinking more along the lines of whether an internalized moral code is more necessary for someone with power over others vs someone with no power. e.g. do we demand the homeless be as moral as the lawmakers?
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
not necessary to achieve the station of lawmaker in any case. is it necessary to be morally good to be a good lawmaker? I would say so. we have very few good lawmakers and very few good laws.
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what does it mean to be a good homeless person? i dunno but I think we can distinguish between good and bad homeless people based on their behavior. I won't claim that merely being good is sufficient to prevent homelessness in some situations. that's orthogonal.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
Is it not more important societally to have lawmakers with strongly internalized moral codes than homeless people with strongly internalized moral codes? (funnily enough, I expect that the US government would be better if we replaced our lawmakers with the homeless)
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yes indeed it is, hence my prior statement about the need for individual morality as a pre-requisite for ethical society. but homeless people impact the lives of others too, through different means. still don't want to have rapist cannibal homeless dudes running around.
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Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism
Maybe if they burst out into song from time to time.
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