a lot of politics is competition to change incentives in alignment with beliefs, thereby creating values.
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it sincerely doesn't help that many beliefs are unfounded bordering on (or sometimes actually) delusional
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good governance ought to be incentives aligned in support of true and useful beliefs
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
> true and useful my guess is you hold core values of empiricism and efficiency
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
empiricism is a method, not a value. efficiency is an outcome, not a value. my core values are for truth and utility (contextually limited)
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
Empiricism is a system for truth-generation requiring belief, a value of "truth" doesn't have meaning without a truth-generation system attached: this is the end-result of postmodern work. Efficiency is a property of a system & can be optimized for. What even is utility anyway?
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
contextually limited utility means that you have solved relevant problems for people you care about (yourself, principally, perhaps others) with the available resources. empiricism is a method that utilizes verification of observable experience to confirm or falsify beliefs.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
How is a "relevant problem" determined? The effectiveness of "empiricism the method" is buttressed by "empiricism the belief". Calling empiricism purely a method with no required underlying axiomatic set is a common bait-and-switch.
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
relevance is a preference judgment, though some preferences become outright needs if survival/subsistence is on the line. empiricism "the belief" is too boring to be worth discussing. yes, I really do believe that senses and instruments can verify reality. I am not a solipsist.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
Interestingly, the idea that peoples' preference judgments are worth listening to is a somewhat non-standard idea these days. The reason to question "empiricism the belief" is not so much "maybe science is fake" so much as "when/for whom might empirical truth be bad?"
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if you hold a delusive belief that can be falsified empirically, then empiricism is bad for your belief. if you identify too strongly with that belief it's bad for your ego-constructed self too.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
I agree with this. On the other hand, often beliefs are abstract and malleable enough to be "routed around" empirical "damage", unless one is truly delusional.
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Replying to @simpolism @danlistensto
I think most people are teacup delusionals in the same way Russell said he was a teacup agnostic. In fact, delusions need to be both severe and highly dysfunctional to really merit mention. So most all of our beliefs at any given time might be delusional - just sorta thrown in.
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