values are incentive-aligned beliefs.
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a lot of politics is competition to change incentives in alignment with beliefs, thereby creating values.
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it sincerely doesn't help that many beliefs are unfounded bordering on (or sometimes actually) delusional
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good governance ought to be incentives aligned in support of true and useful beliefs
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
> true and useful my guess is you hold core values of empiricism and efficiency
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
empiricism is a method, not a value. efficiency is an outcome, not a value. my core values are for truth and utility (contextually limited)
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
Empiricism is a system for truth-generation requiring belief, a value of "truth" doesn't have meaning without a truth-generation system attached: this is the end-result of postmodern work. Efficiency is a property of a system & can be optimized for. What even is utility anyway?
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Replying to @simpolism @PereGrimmer
contextually limited utility means that you have solved relevant problems for people you care about (yourself, principally, perhaps others) with the available resources. empiricism is a method that utilizes verification of observable experience to confirm or falsify beliefs.
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Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer
How is a "relevant problem" determined? The effectiveness of "empiricism the method" is buttressed by "empiricism the belief". Calling empiricism purely a method with no required underlying axiomatic set is a common bait-and-switch.
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(I don't mean to imply you are performing a bait-and-switch, merely that I see it used a lot in this way, particularly with HBD/scientific racism type folks)
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they say one true thing (the bait) to lure you into discussing something controversial and possibly untrue. I don't think I'm saying anything especially controversial or untrue and I don't have a political agenda attached to this discussion.
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so there's a pattern match because bait-and-switch arguments start with a true thing. that doesn't mean that all arguments that start with that true thing are bait-and-switch or that that true thing is untrue because it is used that way sometimes.
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