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    1. ice9‏ @__ice9 Jul 29

      Statistically, political terrorism within the United States has historically been driven primarily by the far left. Examples from the right are sporadic, with McVeigh and Kaczynski being some of the only particularly interesting cases. See e.g.: https://delanceyplace.com/view-archives.php?p=3633 …pic.twitter.com/ZKa6K4LEnZ

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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 29
      Replying to @__ice9

      does police brutality count as political terrorism?

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    3. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Aug 1
      Replying to @danlistensto @__ice9

      I'd say that technically no, though I suppose there could be peculiar edge cases if a group of policemen decides to organize into a kind of informal group and specifically use police-brutality tactics to further an independent political goal.

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    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Aug 1
      Replying to @0K_ultra @__ice9

      consistent with definition of terrorism meaning non-state actors. what is the word for the super-category of both state and non-state actors using terror tactics for political ends?

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    5. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Aug 1
      Replying to @danlistensto @__ice9

      For it to be state terrorism, it has to be actual state policy, or a reasonably active state conspiracy (like, I dunno, how certain governments facilitate activities of "vanilla" terror groups via clandestine means)

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Aug 1
      Replying to @0K_ultra @__ice9

      well, I think I asked it somewhere down there in the thread but I'll ask it again here: do police departments with long histories of brutality count as having a policy of brutality?

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        2. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Aug 1
          Replying to @danlistensto @__ice9

          well, no, because that is not a policy. I guess you could argue they are a site of an active terrorist conspiracy operating at department level if you can, like, show it being a deliberate clandestine process perpetrated to further a political goal.

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Aug 1
          Replying to @0K_ultra @__ice9

          I think there's some grey area here where the "blue line" (policy of police never testifying against other police, or outright falsifying evidence for them) and history of tolerating it amounts to an unofficial and tacit policy.

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        4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Aug 1
          Replying to @danlistensto @0K_ultra @__ice9

          the other grey area is what the political goal actually is. some of it is just police departments being distressingly tribal organizations. some of it is some variation of terror tactics to attempt to control the underclass.

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        5. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Aug 1
          Replying to @danlistensto @__ice9

          I kind of think there is very little evidence for any coherent goal, and it makes it harder, not easier, to exterminate this behavior. also, by that kind of logic we could write any sort of behavior that enables abuse and has government involved into terrorism and that's silly

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