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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl
is there not often a generalized truth-production step that occurs after collection and analysis of empirical data and evaluation of hypotheses (I assume this is often the goal of sections entitled "Discussion")?
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Replying to @simpolism
Of course there is. What's extraordinary is his claim, "sometimes people get wrong answers when they use scientific method, therefore SM is not magical and infallible."
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism
well, the logic is busted but the conclusion isn't wrong. it's just right for the wrong reasons.
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Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism
Of course an application of SM isn't "infallible." But you can't show that it's not infallible as a principle, unless perhaps you dive deep into some quantum mechanics shenanigans.
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism
I don't follow you on the QM reference. re: the SM itself I would just state that falsification is a principle of the SM so the implicit assumption that anything known is subject to doubt and confirmation/reconfirmation is baked into the method, when done properly.
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Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism
Scientific method is an empirical method, therefore observation is essential. You can't falsify that which you can't observe. In QM, there are things you cannot observe.
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Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism
ok, I see what you mean now. does climate science have this problem? I think it has a huge amount of observable data. too much, maybe.
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Replying to @danlistensto @simpolism
The problem is "partly" present -- our observations of past climates are inferences based on tree rings, sediment structure, ice composition, etc.
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depends on timescale (we have first class data for about the last 120ish years) but yeah, indirect observations are a thing. I'm not learned enough in this specific area to have an opinion on how good the inferences made from those indirect observations are though.
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