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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 6

      everything is mansplaining including people who want to converse with me about a topic that I brought up, in public, on a platform meant for talking to strangershttps://www.pcgamer.com/guild-wars-2-writers-fired-following-heated-twitter-exchange-with-streamer/ …

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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      I am pleasantly surprised for the first time in a while.

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    3.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 6
      Replying to @danlistensto

      how so?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      employee of company committing egregious fireable offense was actually fired for it rather than given cover for it due to using a politically radioactive smokescreen (gender/harassment)

      1 reply 1 retweet 54 likes
    5.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 6
      Replying to @danlistensto

      I actually think she shouldn't have been fired, unless there was more going on behind the scenes (very possible that she was an insufferable employee). But I hear you — finally some accountability

      6 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 6
      Replying to @sonyaellenmann

      hmm, I'm trying to empathize with that position but finding it hard. the commentator she lashed out against was actually on Arenanet payroll to promote the game within gaming community. This wasn't just social media meltdown, it was actively undermining company interests.

      11:57 AM - 6 Jul 2018
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        2.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 6
          Replying to @danlistensto

           🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀 Retweeted saint boca

          Yeah very fair pointhttps://twitter.com/Hotline_Boca/status/1015306962064609280 …

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          saint boca @Hotline_Boca
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann
          This seems like a very corporate firing. Like you fought with someone actively on our payroll to promote our game what are you doing
          2 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 6
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann

          if it had been a random fan though I'm not sure I would feel differently. I know I would be fired by my company if I engaged with one of our clients and trash talked them like that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 25 likes
        4.  🤖 Sonya Mann  🎀‏Verified account @sonyaellenmann Jul 6
          Replying to @danlistensto

          "be a sensible adult who can behave professionally" doesn't seem to be a general requirement in the game dev industry

          7 replies 5 retweets 51 likes
        5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 6
          Replying to @sonyaellenmann

          probably the case. from what I've read the main requirement seems to be tolerance of crunch time working hours.

          0 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
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        2. Unholykill3‏ @Unholykill3 Jul 6
          Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          Nah, that's asinine; she was fired for exercising her First Amendment Rights -Wasn't on Company Time or shackled to an NDA (Why do we have freedom of expression if we're going to run around though policing everyone?) *This is treating adults like children; let em dispute/rant

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        3. john‏ @john_iamme Jul 6
          Replying to @Unholykill3 @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          No opinion on whether she should or should not have been fired (don't know complete history. But 1A only applies to a gov't action, it's inapplicable vis-à-vis a private entity action.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Unholykill3‏ @Unholykill3 Jul 6
          Replying to @john_iamme @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          *Perhaps, I sympathies with those who feel they should be able to Fire whoever whenever they want; which is why she should quite if they're mistreating her- Companies have to compete for the Best employees; If they suck ass, so will their product;

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        5. Unholykill3‏ @Unholykill3 Jul 6
          Replying to @Unholykill3 @john_iamme and

          Firing their Employee for expressing an opinion- makes ArenaNet look really BAD (IMO) *May be legal- but isn't right; unlawful termination in my book Because Virtue supersedes Legislation (Just because it was illegal to harbor a Jew in Nazi Germany didn't make u wrong to do-it)

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        6. john‏ @john_iamme Jul 6
          Replying to @Unholykill3 @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          Having the right and it being the right thing to do are often different.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. niklas‏ @DrDaxxy Jul 6
          Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          I don't think you can detach it from the politics like that; the opposing position here is that by arguing with her without her explicit invitation, said contractor was _harrassing_ her

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        1. Mother Suspiria Jumped the Gun‏ @RemingtonWild Jul 6
          Replying to @danlistensto @sonyaellenmann

          I'm sometimes shocked at how normal you consider putting business over freedom of speech

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