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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Alex Godofsky‏ @AlexGodofsky Jul 3
      Replying to @browserdotsys @danlistensto

      I don't think the distinction between infinity and "really really big" is fatal to dan's point

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    2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
      Replying to @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

      I would expect an infinite number of overlapping divisions as well as an infinite number of non-overlapping divisions. which ones you call up is dependent on which words you use to call them with.

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
      Replying to @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

      they aren't equally meaningless though. just that the language you use to frame meaning is part of the frame itself.

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    4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
      Replying to @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

      maybe. I'm definitely making a pretty strong (controversial perhaps) claim though it is fairly consistent with many systems of non-dual philosophy. I'm tweeting so trying to work with the limits of the medium but maybe it's not serving me well here.

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
      Replying to @danlistensto @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

      the essential problem I'm trying to circumscribe with these slightly glib tweets is that of language and meaning. it's much too easy to assume that because you can phrase things in multiple ways that you are dealing with multiple underlying realities.

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    6. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
      Replying to @danlistensto @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

      so your question "how many dimensions" is actually a really good one but I'm claiming that it's not the right first question to ask. the right first question to ask is "what is the phenomenon and how do we observe it and find agreement about those observations between frames?"

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
      Replying to @danlistensto @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

      implicit in your choice of dualisms is that maybe there's less than 4 dimensions represented by these 4 dualisms. would you be satisfied to say it's actually 1 dimension? I'm trying to disrupt the language framing of this and suggest, ok, maybe there's 8 dimensions. why not?

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        2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
          Replying to @danlistensto @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

          I don't have a definitive answer. I think digging into the problem requires a heavy lift to cut away the language framing and not just being playing talking-monkey word games while circling the drain as our meaning flushes away.

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
          Replying to @danlistensto @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

          I can see how that might come across as pessimistic w.r.t the knowability of truth about human cognition. I do think we can know things about that though but that we will not be able to justify our beliefs if we just shuffle the words around.

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        5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
          Replying to @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

          the imaging studies are so primitive still :( and even if we had higher resolution we still don't have a good working model for neuronal activity and the contents of consciousness (let alone unconscious processes) my past life as a philosophy/cog-sci dual major still haunts me

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        7. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 3
          Replying to @browserdotsys @AlexGodofsky

          my second degree (the one I actually finished) is Computer Science, though by profession I'm just a webshit JSON pusher. the contrast between dry silicon computation and wet meat cognition is endlessly fascinating

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