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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 1

      All stupidity is irrationality but not all irrationality is stupidity. Stupidity is a pattern language. If you can’t spot/name specific pattern, it is either rational in a way you are blind to, or non-stupid irrationality. Unlikely that you’ve discovered a new stupidity pattern.

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    2. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Jul 1
      Replying to @vgr

      Indeed. Stupidity tends to dissolve once you take a systemic view - what's the function, how did it evolve, what result, etc. Real stupidity is denouncing "stupidity" you don't understand in situ.

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    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 1
      Replying to @PereGrimmer @vgr

      I don't see how that follows. Stupidity is just as capable of being systemic as anything else. Maybe more than most things.

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    4. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Jul 1
      Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

      I think we'd have to define terms. Say you see someone commit a logical fallacy - the person may have simply blundered, or it may be (say) a way to connect with a supporter with power, rewarded even if unintentional. That's the sorta thing I have in mind.

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 1
      Replying to @PereGrimmer @vgr

      I don't think of any of those things as pattern-matching to "stupid". Mistakes aren't stupid (or rather, a stupid mistake is a specific subcategory). Social signalling isn't stupid either. Stupid might be hard to define though but I try to pattern-match it to a...

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        2. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 1
          Replying to @danlistensto @PereGrimmer @vgr

          ...combination of frivolity, wastefulness, and ineffectiveness. Maybe more attributes in the stupidity pattern as well but those three stand out as important to me.

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        3. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Jul 1
          Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

          On this level I'd say the only stupidity lay in avoidable inefficiency.

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        4. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jul 1
          Replying to @PereGrimmer @vgr

          something like that, as well as the compounding effects of opportunity costs and also any yet unaccounted for negative externalities of the stupid acts, including especially social costs that aren't immediately reckoned.

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        1. Derek‏ @PereGrimmer Jul 1
          Replying to @danlistensto @vgr

          (it seems you have a definition of stupid that already takes into account situation, evolutionary concerns, and agent motivation - Iow your definition incorporates what I attempted to bring out. So I can't say I disagree, but I do not think your definition is necessarily std.)

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