Some responses to this exemplify a particular disagreement pattern I've been trying to articulate for some time. Someone complains about open disdain for white men, to which someone else responds, sarcastically, that white men "have it so tough" or something to that effect. ->https://twitter.com/sullydish/status/1012711850788753409 …
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The first person's objection to being disrespected is read by the second as claiming victimhood status, which is required for sympathy. Then this interpretation is mocked for being absurd. ->
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But that's wrong. It's not a demand for sympathy, it's a demand for basic respect, for the same courtesy that others are considered entitled to. The validity of such a demand isn't dependent on your (disadvantaged) standing in the same way. ->
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Replying to @everytstudies
If this pattern is common, it suggests that many people in disadvantaged demographic groups have been implicitly taught that they deserve basic decency ONLY BECAUSE of that membership. Rather than despite or regardless of it. Seems plausible; and if so, very sad.
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The question of *why* everyone would deserve basic respect is gaping rn. Used to be - because God in all of us later - because Reason - because Agency Atm each is thought discredited. Will worsen until we have broadly accepted ideas about what is noble in human beings.
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does it require a metaphysical grounding? basic primate reciprocity is good enough reason.
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Reciprocity might imply it's a good idea (i.e. strategic by default) to be respectful. But not that we deserve it.
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maybe we don't deserve but we still need it to maintain a sense of well-being. people often don't respect themselves much let alone other people. the impact this has on well-being and behavior is dramatic. the pragmatic reasons seem sufficient to me. fake it 'til you make it.
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