his response to a different author who is the probably the original source where this person got the mischaracterization fromhttps://jordanbpeterson.com/uncategorized/response-to-vox-feminist-philosopher-dr-kate-manne-of-cornell/ …
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Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism
relevant snippet if you want TLDR (its short though) iow he didn't say any of those things to his patient. he used the example (anonymized) to illustrate an ethical dilemma and how he thought it through and why he decided to NOT gaslight his patient.pic.twitter.com/3NlJ3Pm96R
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Replying to @danlistensto @hikikomorphism
beyond that, just to be clear, it wasn't a psychiatric patient. he's a clinical psychologist and not an MD and this woman wasn't seeing him as a medical patient but as a mental health counselor. important distinction.
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Replying to @danlistensto
I don't consider that to be an important distinction, is there no duty of confidentiality in one of those cases?
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Replying to @hikikomorphism
there is, but he did anonymize her. the distinction is important in other respects though. in fact, many clinical psychs use the word client instead of patient to more carefully delineate that it's not a medical care relationship.
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Replying to @danlistensto
In the linked thread an argument is made that she's not nearly anonymized enough and that ppl who know her could identify her from that excerpt. I'm not sure if that's the case but, eg, SSC definitely anonymizes case studies way more thoroughly
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Replying to @hikikomorphism
possibly the case. that's a substantively different criticism than what has been made though. I understand the politics around this leads to hyperbole (and lying) so it's expected, but I have a strong preference for limiting criticisms to the most salient points.
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Replying to @danlistensto
Oh totally, but right now I'm sort of assuming this is going to be more "he technically didn't say the thing, he merely heavily implied it" and not "claims he said the thing are a complete fabrication"
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Replying to @hikikomorphism
if we believe his account in the blogpost (I do, but also would love to see the primary text) then he says that he didn't say much of anything directly to the client/patient and just listened while trying to avoid priming her response. so his accusers look like liars to me.
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maybe I'm misunderstanding your perspective? I don't want to do that. To me it looks like a deliberate malicious misreading that explicitly omits important context.
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Replying to @danlistensto
I'd say that's at least 50% likely but there's just not sufficient info to say w/o the primary source
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