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    1. eigenrobot‏ @eigenrobot Jun 11

      how to make friends and influence close to fifty percent of the electoratepic.twitter.com/iEvpuvtQOZ

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    2. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl Jun 11
      Replying to @eigenrobot

      If Freud were alive today (hate him or not, he's a useful character in the story I'm about to tell), he would postulate a "signaling drive" (irresistible urge to signal to ingroup), which he would consider to be closely related to "death drive."

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    3. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 11
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @eigenrobot

      Hm? I feel Freud would see claims like "why can't we hate men?" as a manifestation of ego-id conflict regarding the Electra complex: to deny they love men is to refuse to identify as a competitor for their fathers' affection, conflicting with their id's desire to possess him.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl Jun 11
      Replying to @simpolism @eigenrobot

      I don't see how the two interpretations are incompatible though.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. simpolism‏ @simpolism Jun 11
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @eigenrobot

      They aren't; a refusal to identify as a competitor (and instead to identify with the mother/"women") is equivalent to a "signaling drive", but it also suggests a psychosexual causal mechanism in addition to describing the behavior. I figure Freud wouldn't invent a new word.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl Jun 11
      Replying to @simpolism @eigenrobot

      Freud loved inventing drives though (e.g. his death drive is pure invention).

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. After Sol‏ @Locus_of_Ctrl Jun 11
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism @eigenrobot

      One thing I notice is that all ideologies seem to have some kind of psychosexual underpinning. marxism -- promise of free love after dissolution of families into communes feminism -- leveling of sexual competition monarchism -- tradwives? libertinism?

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 11
      Replying to @Locus_of_Ctrl @simpolism @eigenrobot

      I don't think I agree with any of that specifically but the framing is so interesting I just wanna let you run with it

      2:14 PM - 11 Jun 2018
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