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Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop
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    1. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
      Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi and

      the precautionary principle should't be taken to mean "don't do this it might be bad/scary/evil" but rather "let's do this, but like, stand behind a blast shield just in case"

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. Andreⓐ‏ @puellavulnerata Jun 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @0knaomi @whvholst

      Meanwhile, in real life, it seems to be loved mainly by the kind of people who think they're allergic to wifi.

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
      Replying to @puellavulnerata @0knaomi @whvholst

      by real life you mean "that corner of the internet I go to to get my rage dose for the day"?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Jun 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @puellavulnerata @whvholst

      nah, there are plenty dangerous idiots leveraging "precautionary principle" Hell, a solid chunk of anti gay marriage people (smarter ones) in USistan were all "muh chesterton fence/muh precationary principle"

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    5. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
      Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi and

      I suppose you're right that they sometimes co-opt that language. That doesn't mean they're actually practicing the principle in any meaningful sense. Assholes will use all kinds of misdirection to conceal their true motive: to enforce their will on others.

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    6. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Jun 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @puellavulnerata @whvholst

      but, narrowly, the argument "fits" (gay marriage SOMEHOW causing implosion of society is far fetched but not impossible and falls squarely into muddy precautionary waters) Also, I doubt anyone does PP consistently (okay, unless we use a more constrained version like you proposed)

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    7. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
      Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi and

      inconsistency is a consistent theme in human affairs I don't want to have a back-and-forth on what people mean when they say "precautionary principle". how charitably we attempt to read the minds of others is a function of mood and caffeine level mostly.

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    8. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Jun 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @puellavulnerata @whvholst

      I dunno, of all PP advocates, the number of people who go for constraining the googlable definition (like you do) is, uh... I'd say 10 percentish among people I run into online and offline, defo much less if offline only.

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    9. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Jun 7
      Replying to @0K_ultra @danlistensto and

      I am ready to grant more charity when I see it warranted (as with you) but after a certain amount of idiotic "GMO risks ROOOEEEEN, heed the PP" takes a certain baseline expectation is established.

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    10. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
      Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi and

      Taleb's position on that is based on the long tail risk of like, uncontrolled transmissible GMO retrovirus that fucks the world (see The Windup Girl for literary example). He also just likes to attract arguments for his own self promotion. I'd apply PP to the IP law of GMOs tho

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      Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
      Replying to @danlistensto @0knaomi and

      I still don't know how this ties back in to sex robots though? isn't that what we were originally talking about?

      1:24 PM - 7 Jun 2018
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        2. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Jun 7
          Replying to @danlistensto @puellavulnerata @whvholst

          the cosmo article has precautionist argument structure, just written by someone who likely does not know the term "precautionary principle"

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        3. Dan listens to rain falling on the rooftop‏ @danlistensto Jun 7
          Replying to @0K_ultra @0knaomi and

          Cosmo has the business model of making women feel bad about every possible thing in their life. They will in the same issue unironically denounce sex robots and also sex with men and also not having sex with men and also sex with women and also not having sex with women.

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