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Founder of @redsweater and punkass of lore.

Joined January 2007
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    1. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass Jul 17

      "Not all classes make sense to subclass." It's absurd to imagine you can predict all valid subclassing patterns. http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/07/17/swift-classes-to-be-non-publicly-subclassable-by-default/ …

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    2. Paul Haddad ‏@tapbot_paul Jul 17

      @danielpunkass so is it actually rejected or not?

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      Daniel Jalkut Verified account ‏@danielpunkass Jul 17

      @tapbot_paul Sounds like the gist is to make Swift classes non-subclassable by default, but just debating the syntax for undoing that.

      4:44 PM - 17 Jul 2016
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        1. Jonathan Lace ‏@jonathanlace Jul 17

          @danielpunkass Can you give an example of why it shouldn't be allowed? Wondering about how it might affect future projects.

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        2. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass Jul 17

          @jonathanlace I'm a proponent of allowing it. Arguments against are many: for example a subclass can upset the expectations of the super.

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        3. Jonathan Lace ‏@jonathanlace Jul 17

          @danielpunkass This is just about what the default will be or at all?

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        4. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass Jul 17

          @jonathanlace The default. Framework designers (including in Apple) will have to go out of their way to make a class subclassable.

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        5. Jonathan Lace ‏@jonathanlace Jul 17

          @danielpunkass Something more than a keyword?

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        6. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass Jul 17

          @jonathanlace Nope, just a keyword.

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        7. Jonathan Lace ‏@jonathanlace Jul 17

          @danielpunkass I love the philosophical angle of debates like this. Which default is more logical? Some issues are interdisciplinary :)

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        8. Daniel Jalkut ‏@danielpunkass Jul 17

          . @jonathanlace Yep, and I trust the Swift team and contributors debated it far more than I can. Just venting … it's all I have time for!

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        1. Michael Tsai ‏@mjtsai Jul 17

          @danielpunkass @tapbot_paul Yes, that is my understanding as well. And it’s been clear for a while they were going to do this.

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