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Founder of Pioneer (https://pioneer.app ). Also run YC AI (https://ycombinator.com/ai ). Prev Director at Apple via Cue (@cueup) acquisition. d@dcgross.com.

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    Daniel Gross  💡‏ @danielgross Feb 20

    Free SaaS idea: build a better Google Groups.

    11:08 AM - 20 Feb 2018
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      2. David King  🔥‏ @dksf Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross

        what are the main improvements you'd like to see?

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      3. Daniel Gross  💡‏ @danielgross Feb 20
        Replying to @dksf

        Have you used it for managing email groups in an org? It’s shockingly, shockingly awful.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. David King  🔥‏ @dksf Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross

        Sure, just wondering what you would approach first to improve. Might be helpful to entrepreneurs who are thinking about the space. Admin tools? General UX? Something else?

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      5. David King  🔥‏ @dksf Feb 20
        Replying to @dksf @danielgross

        Said another way... the thing that beats Google Groups probably has 1-2 key insights that serves a population of users particularly well. What are they?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Daniel Gross  💡‏ @danielgross Feb 20
        Replying to @dksf

        Roadmap: 1. Snappier admin UI on top of existing GG. No migration required. This alone is a great MVP. 2. Autosync with other groups / folders (Github, Dropbox). 3. Clone Slack and make it unslow. 4. Profit.

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      2. Michael Grinich‏Verified account @grinich Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross

        I want this too, but even with a superior product it’s impossible to compete with free/subsidized within a bundled suite. Haven’t seen a single individual SaaS app at meaningful scale that competes with a part of gapps/o365. Nobody buys an entree when they already got the buffet.

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      3. Michael Grinich‏Verified account @grinich Feb 20
        Replying to @grinich @danielgross

        Graveyard full of amazing new products for email, calendar, contacts, docs, spreadsheets, mailing lists, file sharing, etc. Only a small number or power users will ever pay. Enterprise requires full bundled suite and still pays <$5/usr/mo. Even open source doesn’t save you.

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      4. Michael Grinich‏Verified account @grinich Feb 20
        Replying to @grinich @danielgross

        the bundling results in a monopoly that is holding back innovation for productivity tools. Huge market failure and everyone suffers. (Even ppl at Google stuck with their own stagnant tools.) The blocker is market and business model, not user desire or good product/tech ideas.

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      1. Utkarsh Sengar‏ @utsengar Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross @AntarYaami

        @codinghorror’s http://discourse.org  is trying to solve the problem in a different way maybe?

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      1. Michael Seibel‏ @mwseibel Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross

        agree!!!

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      1. DAVE MORIN‏Verified account @davemorin Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross

        Goes along with build a better Facebook Groups. Wish we could convince @rsanghvi to rebuild Cove again.

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      1. Groups.io‏ @groupsio Feb 20
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        Agreed, and we did! https://groups.io 

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      1. Dhanyal Radha Gopi‏ @DhanyalGopi Feb 20
        Replying to @danielgross

        We're doing something similar :) , more of SaaS (Google Groups + Linkedin Groups + Whatsapp Groups)

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      1. Brett Hellman  🤗‏ @bretthellman Feb 20
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        People used to say build a better Y! Groups. Many have tried and failed.

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