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AARGH! Scotty Hendricks misses the main point of my free will theory. There is NO indeterminism needed; a coin flip is 'random' but determined. We need deterministic chaos, not indeterminism. Causation is not control!https://bigthink.com/culture-religion/free-will-science-philosophy …
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So is deterministic chaos inaccessibly deterministic? i.e. so complex as to be unmeasurable and/or incomputable.
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Seems to be of the incomputable variety, yes. I think that's Dan's stance but I'm not 100%. I don't blame the writer for having trouble with Dan's version of this. I still don't see where the free-will "compatibilism" pops out from, and I've been reading this stuff for decades.
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‘Random’ but determined is a tough one for some people to grasp; ‘god does not play dice’.
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There is no need to grasp it: you could never falsify a claim that something is either random or determined. How would you know? Philosophy has created this problem by creating these appealing but irrelevant concepts in the first place.
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I agree that chaos is what ultimately gives the illusion of free will, but it's still fundamentally unfree.
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Is any claim that there is a difference falsifiable? Then there really *isn't* a difference... it's an ill-posed question.
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more on Free Will, Libet paragidm, stochastic models for Readiness-Potentials by Adina Roskieshttps://twitter.com/_mxochicale/status/1322191493361225728 …
Adina Roskies talking about Free Will, Libet paragidm, stochastic models for Readiness-Potentials
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKHVvO9D9hk …
B. Libet et al., 1983: https://www.giovannipascuzzi.eu/wp-content/uploads/Recensioni/legrenzi_umilta/Brain-1983-LIBET.pdf …
A. Roskies 2006: https://www.dartmouth.edu/~adinar/Adinas_homepage/CV_files/TICS%20free%20will%20%26%20MR.pdf …
A. Schurger et al. 2012: http://www.unicog.org/publications/PNAS-2012-Schurger-1210467109.pdf … https://twitter.com/alfairhall/status/1321919545594929153 … pic.twitter.com/t8gKhwp7ROThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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haha I hear that AARGH in my ear
#classicdandennettThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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