7. For Pence, I surmise, human beings are fallen, prone to temptation and sin, in a state of moral degradation.
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18. We need God's help, and we need to keep ourselves away from situations in which we will be tempted to cheat.
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19. I could understand if secular liberal Kantians rolled their eyes at Pence. But why the anger about it?
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Right. It assumes we inevitably and exclusively see each other as sexual objects -- to which feminism has long cried "bullshit!"
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Not exclusively. Why would you assume that?
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I'm not sure it denies our ability to restrain reliably; it says that the cost of failure is so high that steps should be taken at any rate.
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Pence's way denies our ability to ALWAYS restrain ourselves & labels cost of a single failure as unacceptably high.
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....this is how the Taliban thinks. This is how utra-orthodox fundies of all stripes deny full citizen participation to women and girls.
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great discussion! In this situation, the cost of being wrong is very high, and affects the moral calculus.
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Bill Clinton is awesome at restraining himself.
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It denies we're able to do so consistently. And in case of infidelity, one moral failure has lifelong consequences
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