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We can fix it. We have the technology. OK. We need to create the technology. Alright. The policy guys are mucking with the technology. Relax. WE'RE ON IT.

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    Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami Mar 6

    Spy vs Spy is old and busted Bug vs Debug is the new hotness /cc @surfacepic.twitter.com/6LTus0l93y

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      2. Mario L Lacroix‏ @skywalkez Mar 7
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        How the found it? Probably, a bad charging cable, by accident was reseting all the time... And a curious engineer decided to investigate... No way it was by design, otherwise the watchdog would be monitoring <ctrl> <alt> <del>

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami Mar 7
        Replying to @skywalkez @surface

        My suspicion is the planned fix didn’t work, but they found an externally triggerable workaround investigating why.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ian Hanschen‏ @furan Mar 7
        Replying to @dakami @skywalkez @surface

        From my experience w/the surface team I'd guess this was actually implemented and not discovered by accident.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami Mar 7
        Replying to @furan @skywalkez @surface

        I’m going to immediately defer to what sounds like direct experience — but you think they’d *choose* cable insertion over polling the keyboard in that magic state?

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Ian Hanschen‏ @furan Mar 7
        Replying to @dakami @skywalkez @surface

        Actually I wonder if an engineer that owns power subsys thought about it, and deduced he could get the counter to roll over, and rolling that over would kick these other systems into play, with all of this simply being in the design for some worst case thing (cable got gnawed on)

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      2. datenwolf‏ @datenwolf Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Well, you know. A simple hardware reset button would have been too simple… right?

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      3. freeone3000‏ @freeone3000 Mar 7
        Replying to @datenwolf @dakami @surface

        No pc has had a hw reset button in over 20 years - it's linked to a mobo jumper which is controlled through ACPI.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami Mar 7
        Replying to @freeone3000 @datenwolf @surface

        Hmm. There is a reset pin generally.

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      1. Derek Klein‏ @rogue_analyst Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        This is god-brain level support engineering.

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      1. Ryan‏ @RRaven85 Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Sweet jesus and I thought trying to walk someone through an SMC reset on a Mac was a nightmare... Serious props to that support tech though for finding the fix.

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      1. Dinidu Perera‏ @nunu10000 Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Have you ever tried to image a @surface with PXE? Even more goofy key combinations (though not nearly as insane as this one). Good to know that after-sales support for consumers is solid though.

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      2. Gene Kim‏ @RealGeneKim Mar 7
        Replying to @dakami @markimbriaco @surface

        I love the phrase about appreciating that Microsoft engineered thought through the failure modes so well, enabling a path to recovery. I’m also impressed that customer support gave them this solution. Not my typical CSR interaction! (“Please reboot your router”)

        1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. novium‏ @novium258 Mar 8
        Replying to @RealGeneKim @dakami and

        The only thing worse than having to go through the idiot steps when talking to customer support is those rare but painful times when the idiot step was in fact was the solution.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. George Violaris‏ @ViolarisGeorge Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Found a bug the other day touching the screen would turn it off (the screen, not the surface). Good it was fixed by just a driver update.

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      3. Boomba‏ @Ivanawesomeness Mar 7
        Replying to @ViolarisGeorge @dakami @surface

        Touching the touch screen touches the surface wrong, causing it to go out of touch

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      1. Sonny Brunson‏ @sonnybrunson Mar 7
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Tiny reset switch and a paperclip. Let’s get back to that.

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      1. JWD‏ @Protocollier Mar 7
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Was trying to work out how to hold (win)-(alt)-(shift)-x and the power button all whilst inserting and removing a USB.... But great job that support!

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      1. Infosec Experts‏ @infosec_experts Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        fuck.surfaces

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      1. Bill Stewart‏ @BillStewart415 Mar 6
        Replying to @dakami @surface

        Cool UI Design user story, bro!

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