Sure. Barack Obama. Hope and change. Totally with you. But okay take 2008 and imagine Obama had delivered more on economics, say he went full old school new deal federal jobs program. You really think he wouldn’t have still lost the House in ‘10 and the Senate in ‘14?
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Jobs program would directly affect the poor much more than any of those things you said but OK sure. Yeah I think he would have lost, probably worse, and I think 11-16 would have played out almost identically. Except he would have done more good than he actually did.
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Which is why I hope we do that in 2020! ‘08 part 2: This Time It’s Radical(-ish, by American standards). (Or god forbid 2024). But I expect it to unfold more or less the same, except probably without the intermittent Senate supermajority.
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Oh also Idk what you’re talking about re: public option. He was just supposed to pressure Lieberman more? That’s not a problem of sufficient spine or whatever, that’s a problem of like... leverage.
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Are you sure? I think they were only at 60 with Franken, Specter AND Kennedy. If Franken were seated the day after Arlen Specter changed parties it still would have been 60-40, not 61-39. And obviously that 60 includes Lieberman.
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Then when the last bit of the bill was passed via reconciliation in 2010 Scott Brown had already been seated and it was 59-41.
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And obviously Scott Brown’s election was a referendum on Obamacare so like... I think Obama and Pelosi deserve credit for getting the public option through the house knowing it was political suicide for many members vs. not getting it through the Senate.
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