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like I'm sorry to go back and try to make Barack Obama's campaign a class-not-race campaign is... wrong. Like DUH he talked about class to the white working class. He didn't HAVE to TALK about race to us because he was the first black major party nominee/president!

and btw: we kinda got fucked by the fact that he DIDN'T talk about race, because all of his policies were universalist and black folks will never be liberated solely by universalist policies, because we have specific, not-universal problems!

yeah wow I think this article is roughly 100% trash. Does this align with your views? Do you think it aligns with socialists broadly? Bc it is entirely the opposite of mine. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/identity-politics-cant-get-us-out-of-the-mess-racism-made.html …

I shouldn't say entirely. But to me the thrust of the argument is "stop talking about race so much so white people will vote for you" and/or "we have to give people something to get excited about and that thing is class policies"

cause class-based policies have definitely motivated black folks more than a) identity or b) black-focused issues like criminal justice reform. It was definitely Hillary's lack of an economic message not her being a white lady with a history of racism that cost her blk votes. OK.

like... this ignores the actual literal votes of black and brown people in favor of a theory that class is the thing that unites everybody, a theory that AFAIK has never panned out in the form of antiracist policies!

Good policies, from left and center? Yes. Antiracist policies...? ehhhhhhh... was it class solidarity that gave us the CRA, the VRA, the 13th-15th Amendments, the '68 housing discrimination act? Or was it like... black folks organizing black folks regardless of class?

At some point we have to take seriously the actual decisions people make. Material things like class should matter more than nominally immaterial things like race. But um. Serious q: when was the last time class was a better predictor of vote than race?